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re: About 30000 us marines fought against 120000 Chinese in -38 weather during Korean war
Posted on 2/19/21 at 8:23 am to BobbyB965
Posted on 2/19/21 at 8:23 am to BobbyB965
Proud to say my grandfather fought in this battle.
I was told so many stories about MacArthur and his speeches and this battle specifically.
My grandfather told me you couldn't believe how cold it was and the Chinese would start running when the Marines would strap up the bayonets.
I'll also add that my grandfather was the toughest SOB on earth. Think Clint Eastwood from Gran Torino. With a chip on his shoulder.
I was told so many stories about MacArthur and his speeches and this battle specifically.
My grandfather told me you couldn't believe how cold it was and the Chinese would start running when the Marines would strap up the bayonets.
I'll also add that my grandfather was the toughest SOB on earth. Think Clint Eastwood from Gran Torino. With a chip on his shoulder.
This post was edited on 2/19/21 at 8:27 am
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Posted on 2/19/21 at 8:25 am to BobbyB965
And our candy arse school.admins can't get a school with heaters open on those days like yesterday at 38 degrees
Posted on 2/19/21 at 8:27 am to BobbyB965
'The point of war is not to die for your country, it's to make the other poor bastard die for his'...
Posted on 2/19/21 at 8:28 am to Dissident Aggressor
quote:F’n Right!
they’re on our left, they’re on our right, they’re in front of us and they’re behind us, sumbitches can’t get away this time”
Posted on 2/19/21 at 8:29 am to LSUfan20005
What did he say?
Posted on 2/19/21 at 8:33 am to blueboxer1119
If interested at all, go read On Desperate Ground by Hampton Sides. I devoured that book in 2 nights.
Properly shows how MacArthur was an arrogant arse and his subordinate Edward Almond was damn near incompetent. MacArthur's 'bold' strategy of attempting to advance all the way to China nearly led to WWIII. Almond's aggression basically put ALL Allied forces in the position of being annihilated.
It was only the foresight and intelligence of Marine four star general Oliver Smith that put the Marines (and Soldiers) involved in the offensive up to and around the Reservoir that made a retreat possible and saved US forces from total annihilation.
Seriously, it's scary how stupid Almond was and how awesome a leader Smith was.
And Almond's stupidity, or foolishness at best, was despite the many warning of intelligence before and during the advance.
Plus, MacArthur's insistence on advancing all the way to the Yalu River was pointless. He just wanted to flex on China and it nearly cost the US 25,000 troops. Smith saved him from that catastrophe.
MacArthur did some great things. But his arrogance also led him to do some damned stupid things as well. He's no hero when it comes to Chosin. Gen. Oliver Smith is the hero, along with several Marines.
Properly shows how MacArthur was an arrogant arse and his subordinate Edward Almond was damn near incompetent. MacArthur's 'bold' strategy of attempting to advance all the way to China nearly led to WWIII. Almond's aggression basically put ALL Allied forces in the position of being annihilated.
It was only the foresight and intelligence of Marine four star general Oliver Smith that put the Marines (and Soldiers) involved in the offensive up to and around the Reservoir that made a retreat possible and saved US forces from total annihilation.
Seriously, it's scary how stupid Almond was and how awesome a leader Smith was.
And Almond's stupidity, or foolishness at best, was despite the many warning of intelligence before and during the advance.
Plus, MacArthur's insistence on advancing all the way to the Yalu River was pointless. He just wanted to flex on China and it nearly cost the US 25,000 troops. Smith saved him from that catastrophe.
MacArthur did some great things. But his arrogance also led him to do some damned stupid things as well. He's no hero when it comes to Chosin. Gen. Oliver Smith is the hero, along with several Marines.
Posted on 2/19/21 at 8:36 am to tigerpimpbot
That’s a division commander today
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Hey look, it’s Biden’s Secretary of Health
Posted on 2/19/21 at 8:36 am to BobbyB965
some tough mother frickers
Posted on 2/19/21 at 8:38 am to meaux5
The forgotten war
Posted on 2/19/21 at 8:41 am to BobbyB965
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Donald Nichols
Damn, never read of that before. That’s worth the wiki lookup for more.
He had a things for young boys too, which got him in prison and then a psych ward where he died. A psych ward in Tuscaloosa, which is kinda redundant. I digress.
Posted on 2/19/21 at 8:43 am to Tigers0891
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I'd venture most people know nothing of the chinese involvement in Korea. fricking no good motherfrickers. Should have A bombed their arse and got it over with 70 years ago.
Better late than never
Posted on 2/19/21 at 8:45 am to blueboxer1119
the Chinese would start running when the Marines would strap up the bayonets.
—that reminds me:
Last Bayonet Charge
—that reminds me:
Last Bayonet Charge
Posted on 2/19/21 at 8:46 am to blueboxer1119
My Dad as well he still carries shrapnel in his head...One Tough Marine as were his fellow Soldiers ....I get broken up just thinking about it...We can never have enough to give back to Our Vets.
Posted on 2/19/21 at 8:55 am to BobbyB965
quote:
30000 us marines fought against 120000 Chinese
It was Marines and US Army.
Posted on 2/19/21 at 9:01 am to Tigers0891
quote:
I'd venture most people know nothing of the chinese involvement in Korea.
McArthur assured Truman that “even if they tried, the Chinese couldn’t get 50,000 troops across the Yalu”
The saying amongst our boys was “home for Christmas”
that was until 5 divisions of chinamen crossed the river...
Posted on 2/19/21 at 9:08 am to BobbyB965
quote:
Undetected by UN intelligence,[1]:35 the 9th Army quietly entered the Chosin Reservoir area on 17 November, with the 20th Corps of the 9th Army relieving the 42nd Corps near Yudami-ni.
Of course the UN didn't detect them. There may not be a more useless organization on the planet.
This post was edited on 2/19/21 at 9:10 am
Posted on 2/19/21 at 9:42 am to BobbyB965
We should have obliterated China and put Mao’s head on display.
Posted on 2/19/21 at 9:43 am to Havoc
quote:
Damn, never read of that before. That’s worth the wiki lookup for more.
He had a things for young boys too, which got him in prison and then a psych ward where he died. A psych ward in Tuscaloosa, which is kinda redundant. I digress.
Military pulled him and them pumped him full of thorazine.
That's pretty weird.
Posted on 2/19/21 at 9:50 am to BobbyB965
Stepfather was in Korea, wounded in a rocket attack. He had to walk for 3 days to get treated. Claimed Chinese were still dug in the mountains until he died.
This post was edited on 2/19/21 at 9:54 am
Posted on 2/19/21 at 9:51 am to BobbyB965
My wife's uncle was in Korea. He was a cook who had to man an artillery gun when his battery was being overrun during the Battle of Yongdong. I don't know how he wound up as a cook, other than the fact that the man could cook, because he was a badass as a young man. He was a golden gloves boxer.
quote:
Private First Class , Field Artillery, United States Army, a member of Battery B, 52nd Field Artillery Battalion, 24th Infantry Division, is awarded the Silver Star for gallantry in action on 16 July 1950 near Yongdong, Korea. The enemy had penetrated front line units and were attacking the battery’s positions. PFC, a battery cook, joined a 105 howitzer section which was firing on the enemy from the battery’s exposed flank. While serving this howitzer in direct fire he was wounded twice by small arms fire. At one time the howitzer received a direct hit and wounded three men serving the howitzer. With utter disregard of his own personal safety, PFC continued loading and firing the howitzer by himself until the enemy infantry was finally driven from the battery’s exposed flank. The act of gallantry displayed by PFC reflects great credit on himself and the military service. GO 82, 10 Aug 1950. Entered service from New Orleans, LA.
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