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re: Draymond Green calls out double standards in NBA's treatment of players

Posted on 2/16/21 at 9:54 am to
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 9:54 am to
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Or do they just side with their team who is represented by the owner over the player?
huh? Only fans of those teams chime in?
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 9:54 am to
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Because when James Harden asked for a trade, and essentially dogged it, no one's going to fight back that James was dogging it his last days in Houston, but he was castrated for wanting to go to a different team. E


This really the wrong hill to die on, the rockets did everything harden ask for and he still wanted out. It’s not like the rockets are the Texans and don’t even try. harden got a super star in Paul then ran him off for his boy Westbrook.

The entire offense was his.

You can’t have your cake and eat it
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 9:55 am to
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But fans, generally speaking, side with owners. And it's pretty strange.
because we give a frick if the team wins. We don’t give a frick who has 20 points
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 9:56 am to
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And have the same rights that the team can have.
Sign 1 year contracts, and you get your wish.
Posted by BigDawg0420
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 9:56 am to
This is why I laugh my arse off whenever players bitch about being "more than athletes". They are so disconnected from reality that they're almost another species.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 9:57 am to
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But fans, generally speaking, side with owners. And it's pretty strange.
This is true.

But, and Russillo rants about this a lot, you can be pro player but also not think that every single thing players want and do is correct. Like, you can be pro player but also recognize what a piece of shite Harden was for what he did to get out of Houston. You can do both.
Posted by Epic Cajun
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 9:58 am to
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"And have the same rights that the team can have.
Well, one of these is paying you to play, and the other is receiving money to play. So...
Posted by Open Your Eyes
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 10:03 am to
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Draymond Green calls out double standards


Posted by Wild Thang
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 10:06 am to
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Draymond Green


Triple Single is very low IQ
Posted by Epic Cajun
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 10:09 am to
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But fans, generally speaking, side with owners. And it's pretty strange.
Maybe it's not a 100% all or nothing? Maybe we side with owners when they are the rational ones, and we side with the players when they are the rational ones. The owners aren't always right, and the players also aren't always right.
Posted by RunnersWorld
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 10:30 am to
And I thought Draymond was at peace since he successfully petitioned the league to do away with the term of “owner” due to its overt racial overtones and replace with “governor.” Silly me.
Posted by Floyd Dawg
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Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 10:35 am to
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I don't get it. If they force Drummond out there while trying to deal him and he blows a knee, then Draymond would probably complain Andre was playing meaningless minutes.


From everything I've read, the Cavs and Drummond AGREED he would sit out while the team tried to trade him. IOW, he's aware of the plan and on board with it. Same goes for Blake Griffin and the Pistons.

Draymond needs to STFU about this.
Posted by Eat Your Crow
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 10:36 am to
It's almost like the team owns the rights to that player via a contract that the player agreed and signed to.

Weird.
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 10:37 am to
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If you don't want to be stuck in some place and want the ability to move, then don't sign 4 and 5 year contracts. Players want the best of both worlds. They want to get the long term security contract, but also to be able to move freely to any team they want while under contract. Obviously some players are forcing moves, but in general, it doesn't work like that. You sign a 4 year deal, and that's that. You're on that team for 4 years. Yes that team can trade you and no you can't up and decide to play elsewhere because you signed the 4 year contract. Sign a 1 year deal, and you can change teams every year if you want.


All of this. Draymond is a dumbass for this tirade.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 10:39 am to
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Draymond is a dumbass all the time.


Fify
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 10:45 am to
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Don't care.
But fans, generally speaking, side with owners. And it's pretty strange.


What’s strange about it? They should.

People cheer for their teams. The players constantly change but the team (for the most part) stays.
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 10:47 am to
I'm not talking about pelicans siding with their team over Davis type situation.
I'm talking about that sport's fans in general.
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 10:54 am to
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What’s strange about it? They should.

People cheer for their teams. The players constantly change but the team (for the most part) stays.
I mean, I definitely get what he's saying. THere is a double standard in how we normally talk about managers/owners vs employees in a normal setting vs how we do the same in a sports setting.

But being pro player does not mean you take the players side on every single argument. Sometimes they're wrong, like Draymond here.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 10:57 am to
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I'm not talking about pelicans siding with their team over Davis type situation.
I'm talking about that sport's fans in general.
Well, if the owners came out and bitched about their situation as frequently as the players, that mentality would likely shift.

Most people likely side against overly pampered millionaires who bitch and moan about nonsensical crap 24/7 while they are paid generational wealth to play a children’s game.

And that isn’t siding with the owners.

It is rolling my eyes at overly privileged individuals complaining about things that are moronic.
This post was edited on 2/16/21 at 11:00 am
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
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Posted on 2/16/21 at 11:00 am to
I can’t even really follow what Draymond’s point is here. Like what does he want? Who is he mad at?
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