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Texas Nationalist Movement: Q&A transcript from tonight (2/4/21)

Posted on 2/4/21 at 9:16 pm
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44091 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 9:16 pm
February 4, 2021
7:30pm Texas time
Texas Nationalist Movement (TNM)
Q&A with TNM President, Daniel Miller
Zoom Meeting


**Per the norm, I only jotted down big ideas. My notes are a hot mess**

Also, I fully recognize most of you aren’t interested in TEXIT topics.
But many LSU folks live in The Great State; and this affects them.
I always try to be very clear in my thread titles when TEXIT is the topic, so you can skip the thread if it isn’t your jam.
I totally get that many of you DGAF.


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Housekeeping
What an eventful week it’s been ....

If you haven’t seen, we just posted the news on the website that LTC. Allen West, Chairman of the Texas GOP, has indicated he’s “all for” the people of Texas having a vote on TEXIT.
Same with Andrew Murr; and he was never on my BINGO card.

The first run of yard signs (n = 10,000) will hit the TNM store ASAP.
We’ll continue producing ‘em in waves.
No charge, but please make a donation. Those suckers aren’t cheap to ship.
The TNM store is restocked with campaign materials as well.

The media is asking constantly about Social Security, Medicare, and transition/post-TEXIT policies. it’s not time to talk about what we’ll do after the referendum; right now the issue is whether or not we’ll even have a vote this session. We’ve got legislation filed, but we’ve got to push it across the finish line. While we’ve touched on those topics at length, we’ll do so a little more tonight.

The fear mongering is off and running in full force. They’re (specific politicians) opposed to TEXIT. Because THEY would vote to stay, they don’t want you to have a voice in an election. They’re in essence saying, “if you go to the polls to be heard, TEXIT will pass, and we’re scared. We’ll lose our sweet, establishment, government gigs.” They want to scare people into submission and are focusing their efforts on senior citizens. Their number one strategy: An independent Texas will let Grandma die in a ditch. That dog don’t hunt, folks. Not in Texas, anyway.

We knew it (fear-mongering) was coming. It’s their only angle of attack right now—Social Security and Medicare. They feel like they have something on the federal side to lose, and they’re lying. Because when TEXIT goes to the polls, they lose.

Re: Social Security: Texas taxpayers send more $ into the federal system than we ever get back--to the tune of $103-160 billion dollars extra a year. It’s the equivalent of Hurricane Harvey hitting Texas every nine months. We’re already paying for military contracts, payroll for federal employees in Texas, matching payrolls, Social Security, national border security, etc.

If you are a federal pension benefit collector, you’ll still collect that pension post TEXIT.

Medicare will likely go away in a free Texas, but Texas will replace it with something better. We pay $27 billion annually to fedgov for Medicare. It is, in effect, a Ponzi scheme. It’s requiring all of us to put money in just to sustain it (the Medicare system). So we will do something better and far more efficient. Less waste, less fraud, and less abuse. Texas can do it better. We already do, if you look at the Galveston Plan. Three counties: Galveston, Fort Bend, and Brazoria opted out of Medicare for their employees and have outperformed the federal government alternative.


Questions from the audience

How many state reps do we have on board now?
Impossible to tell right now. They started the lege session around the second week of January, met for a few days, then gaveled out until Feb. 9th. They don’t return again until next week. We’ll have a better feeling about TEXIT support then. Don’t let up, folks. Get into their offices right now. Schedule an appointment. The vast majority are in district, and the expectation must be that they sign on in support of TEXIT.

We’re rapidly approaching the point where we’ll have to shift our focus from the Texas House to the Texas Senate. We’ve done a crazy intense, bang-up job with the Texas House. Their secretaries are answering phones like mad.

Have we sent a copy of the TEXIT book and TEXIT policies to all legislators?
Yes (except maybe the brand new ones).

Why doesn’t Gov. Abbott come out in support of HB1359?
We’re in the process of organizing a mass call into the Governor’s office.
There’s a very specific time to place a maximum amount of pressure and at the most appropriate places. The Governor is certainly high on the list, and the focus on him is coming. To date, our focus needed to be on the Texas House.

The TEXIT bus is coming and about to hit the road; look for a location near you soon.

Up to date numbers to quantify support?
Pre-January 20th (Victory Insights polling) we used a third party outfit/pollster.
The challenge: We’ve found that third-party pollsters use methodology so far off reality that we have to break down and disaggregate data sets to translate those numbers into how Texans actually vote.

Ex: they polled Texas 1/3 to 1/3 to 1/3 (by political party) ... and that’s not how Texas votes. The sample needs to be weighted differently.
Beyond our internal polling—and it’s very internal [lacks reliability]—there hasn’t been any recent third-party polling to which we’ve been made privy.

How much pressure are Representatives feeling? Word on the street?
It’s high. Crazily enough the thing that’s making them the most nervous (behind the scenes)—the reps are obsessed with the membership counter on the website! We have no clue why. Of all the things they could focus on, it’s that dang counter.
This post was edited on 2/5/21 at 12:47 am
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44091 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 9:16 pm to
What about the challenge of the large Democrat cities that may be against TEXIT?
I can’t say it enough. TEXIT isn’t a partisan deal. Many people feel disconnected, regardless of political party. That’s why it’s been effective for us to reach into those places. Houston is our largest support area per capita in the state of Texas. Our message resonates regardless of a so-called partisan divide. Being in the federal system has not served anyone. The overregulation is hurting poorer communities and is making it almost impossible to cultivate entrepreneurship. It’s the same in rural poor and urban poor. The hammer from the federal government hits us all equally.

The political establishment is afraid of this issue bc it resonates with everyone. We’ve got big Democrat trial lawyers who want TEXIT. Kyle (Biedermann) has lunched with several in Austin.

Immigration and border security are huge.
Federal inaction and mismanagement costs Texas $12 billion a year. Up to now it’s been the number one issue for Texans during elections.

We still need a few Senate District Directors. Volunteer in your district, either as a director or a volunteer within your district.

Could this grow to an effort bigger than Texas?
Yes. It already has. The principles of self-determination and self-government have always been bigger than Texas. That’s all we’re asking for: the chance to vote.

The question AGAIN about banding together with a bunch of other states ...
We are NOT going to do that.
That’s federal thinking, and we’re thinking about Texas.
The US is comprised of 50 free sovereign states. We can negotiate with Louisiana and Oklahoma, but we’re not going to fight for issues unrelated to Texas. We’ll work together with our neighbors, but we’re not going to merge with other states.

We’ll be taking out a full page advertisement in the Nacogdoches newspaper to challenge Rep. Travis Clardy to a debate after he called all of us “cowards” last week.
I look forward to embarrassing him in front of his constituents.

What do you say to people who accuse you of being anti-American?
TEXIT is about as American as you can get. What’s anti-American about it?
Is upholding the principles of self-government, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, self-determination anti-American?
Sounds like the federal government are the ones who are anti-American.
They’re the bad guys who are crushing us under 180 million policies, “ruling” under non-voted bureaucrats, etc. I’m not anti-American, I’m pro-Texas.

What will happen to our national parks?
They’ll remain national parks, just under a different nation.

Out of time.
We’ll likely start meeting once a week; too much info and too many questions to limit these sessions to once a month.
We’ll be bringing in special speakers to speak to you and teach you how to get out the message and work the mission.
BREXIT will be speaking to our group soon.

Thank you for answering the call to action.
Some of you may want to think about running for public office.

We can win this.
Texas history is being written right now.
“Texas will again lift its head and stand among nations.” —Sam Houston
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57475 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 9:18 pm to
We RIDIN??
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44091 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 9:25 pm to
Always.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
25168 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 9:30 pm to
quote:

Also, I fully recognize most of you aren’t interested in TEXIT topics.
I am interested, for sure.

Have you considered peacefully annexing Oklahoma? Because if Texas were to peacefully annex Oklahoma, that would be great.

The power players in D.C. all say we're just a bunch of redneck flyover rubes anyway, so when presented with their own words and actions, they should agree that their perfect utopia is better off without an entire state of backwoods Bible thumpers.

Please take us with you We have oil and skilled labor. Lots of both.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53531 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 9:31 pm to
We actually purchased land in TX this week
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
14113 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 9:33 pm to
I like your style.

Can you annex calcasieu parish?
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
6013 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 9:33 pm to



regards the comments about working with other states, I thought a large part of the reasoning for Texas independence was the treaties that joined texas and the us in the first place. wasn't there an opt out provision??
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
51064 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 9:35 pm to
quote:

we’re not going to merge with other states.


Well dang. I was hoping this could become a southeast thing.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44091 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 9:38 pm to
quote:

wasn't there an opt out provision??

No more so than any other state.
Each of us (with the exception of Nevada, who’d have to alter their state constitution) can hold an election to vote for independence.
Don’t listen to those who trumpet the same antiquated arguments claiming otherwise.
They’re wrong.
This post was edited on 2/5/21 at 8:43 am
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44091 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 9:40 pm to
quote:

Can you annex calcasieu parish?

I have zero say in anything beyond what I cook for dinner each night.
And I can’t even pronounce calca... ? parish, much less annex it.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44091 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 9:40 pm to
quote:

We actually purchased land in TX this week

Hot damn.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93797 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 9:42 pm to
So this is all about secession again?
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44091 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 9:42 pm to
quote:

I am interested, for sure.

Oh, I’m sure a few are.
But many aren’t.
Totally understandable; I dislike clogging up the board.

But I won’t stop.

My singular mission is to get out the word right now.
Education is everything, and it’s the only way we’ll be free.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44091 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 9:45 pm to
quote:

So this is all about secession again?

Again?
There’s never been a movement to do so (unless you’re referring to 1861).

And it isn’t yet about secession.
Right now it’s about convincing the Texas Legislature to pass a referendum that would allow Texans to vote on a free and independent Texas.
This post was edited on 2/4/21 at 9:49 pm
Posted by Satchel
Member since Feb 2021
44 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 9:46 pm to
So does this mean that The Pledge of Allegiance is a no go for secessionists?
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16635 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 9:54 pm to
Tiger ex-pat in TX and I'm interested. Keep the updates coming!
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44091 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 9:54 pm to
I can’t speak for anyone but myself.
But the Pledge of Allegiance has been a “no go” for me for several years.
Personal decision—one for which I’d never call attention to myself in any way.
I fully respect every person’s personal rights and wouldn't disrespect the US flag and/or the Pledge by publicly demeaning either.
This post was edited on 2/4/21 at 10:08 pm
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80516 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 9:56 pm to
quote:

I can’t speak for anyone but myself.
But the Pledge of Allegiance has been a “no go” for me for several years.


What about the National Anthem?
Posted by AnAmericanGirl
Member since Feb 2019
506 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 9:59 pm to
Thank you for these updates. I look forward to them
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