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LSU going after Blake Baker; possibly as Co-DC/LB coach

Posted on 1/28/21 at 11:58 am
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 11:58 am
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Sources tell FootballScoop that LSU is seeking to add a defensive coordinator from the ACC to wrap up their defensive staff rebuild. Daronte Jones has been hired as defensive coordinator but multiple spots remain to be filled.

Miami defensive coordinator Blake Baker is a top target of Ed Orgeron’s to join the Tigers staff, sources have shared. While Baker’s role is not yet clear, a co-defensive coordinator / linebackers role may be in play.
Posted by MegaTiger3
League City, TX
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 12:01 pm to
Should be done soon
Posted by ConeHawk
Member since Dec 2018
1961 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 12:02 pm to
I don’t want this dude as CO-DC, Miami fans say he sucks.
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 12:05 pm to
Not sure on titles but this is a done deal. He’ll be on staff.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
155890 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 12:05 pm to
Co-DC?

It’s football scoop so probably a load of giraffe shite
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 12:13 pm to
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Sources tell FootballScoop t


If this one falls thru I suggest we ban all football scoop articles on this site for the future
Posted by BlackAngus
350 Sonic Blvd
Member since Jan 2020
1964 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 12:14 pm to
He may work out as a LB coach, but Miami fans certainly do not care about his departure. Alot of them want him gone.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 12:34 pm to
I checked out of the constant checking of this board after Freeman chose Notre Dame last minute. But I pop in enough to tell that this hire will not be well received as the DC was not. I can’t even remember the DCs name. But a couple of thoughts:

—the Co-DCs didn’t work in ‘08 because of Mallory and Peveto (and maybe Miles some). It is in no way a predictor of success with 2 different human beings in the positions with being underneath another totally different human being.

—CO-DCs have been shown to have some success. I don’t think it’s ever ideal, but if the HC establishes the roles of each, and they not only agree to to, but embrace it and work well with and compliment each other, it could very well be a successful arrangement

—if it fails, it is because of Coach O and the Co-DCs, not the concept of Co-DCs

—I read in another thread that this hire is retarded because apparently there is another LB coach who is infinitely better than Baker. That very well may be true. But I think most of us fans think way too highly of ourselves regarding the evaluation of position coaches. These guys go to all the same clinics, work with the same people, watch the same film—there’s not some secret formula that only a select few position coaches have that others don’t. Some are better teachers than others, sure, but as long as they are competent, I don’t know that the gap between the best position coach and the worst is as wide as we’ve convinced ourselves. It’s much more important to have the best players. Identifying and signing them is much more important than whatever drills you may have them running.

—At his core, Coach O is a recruiter, and I don’t think he’d sacrifice bad recruiting from a position coach for the slight gain he may give you as a teacher. That doesn’t make sense to me at all.

—it’s so hard to judge position coaches because we’re just not privy to the information needed to do so. They are not on an island, they are working within an overall scheme. Do we really think Raymond went from none of the best DB coaches in CFB to the worst overnight? Of course not. His guys could only do what they were instructed to within Pelini’s scheme.

—personality fits make an difference. People can make BBQ buddy jokes all they want (though after 30 years of coaching, it’s almost impossible to not have any connection whatsoever with guys), but the fact is that a good working environment is crucial. It’s up to O to foster a culture where everybody wants to not only shown up to work, but are excited to work together.

—I don’t know anything about Baker that I haven’t read in the last hour on here. Don’t know anything about our DC that I didn’t read or hear the last 3 days. They could both be epic failures and help usher Ed out the door. Or they could help Ed hold the trophy again in the next 2 years. Perhaps we could hold off a bit on getting our panties all in wads and let it play out at least a game or 2.
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
11041 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

While Baker’s role is not yet clear, a co-defensive coordinator / linebackers role may be in play.
They already getting help for the new DC.

Jones & Baker

Beware of the upcoming Joker Monster. (JOnes and BaKER)

Competition for the legendary Mallveto Monster of 2008! (Doug Mallory and Bradley Dale Peveto)
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 3:10 pm to
This would be a good hire for LSU but I seriously doubt he's a true co-dc if they go that route. Most likely they'll give him heavy input on gameday planning but it's all Jones on gameday. You don't pay him that with a co-dc in mind. I think it's a better stance to strongly lock Louisiana and parts of Texas down in recruiting than having connections into Georgia/Bama. You have recruiting battles against 2 powerhouses and distance is further away an issue. Texas is right next door with basically nobody worth a shite. TAMU getting 1 good season means nothing if Jimbo can't sustain it which he won't and it's loaded with talent. If you filled LSU's roster up with nothing but Texas and Louisiana players you'd win championships. It's much easier to sell to Texas kids to come to LSU than Georgia/Bama kids for numerous reasons.

I like the strategy. I can get behind it.
This post was edited on 1/28/21 at 3:12 pm
Posted by FightinTiga
Pumpkin Center
Member since Feb 2009
20745 posts
Posted on 1/28/21 at 3:20 pm to
So this guy will be the real DC and the other just PC
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