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re: College football is broken. Here's how it can be fixed.
Posted on 12/30/20 at 10:43 am to Jaydeaux
Posted on 12/30/20 at 10:43 am to Jaydeaux
Did we all think CFB was broken this time last season?
The Covid 19 pandemic has ruined much of sports this year. CFB has some problems, but it is not broken. CFB will be closer to normal in 2021.
The Covid 19 pandemic has ruined much of sports this year. CFB has some problems, but it is not broken. CFB will be closer to normal in 2021.
Posted on 12/30/20 at 10:43 am to CalTiger53
Imagine recruiting caps based on star ratings. Each school is only allowed to sign two consensus 5 star players per recruiting cycle.
Or points instead of stars. You only get a certain number of recruiting points each year to fill your 25. These ranking services are getting more accurate every year. These schools win “top recruiting class” based on the rankings anyway. Why not cap it.
Or points instead of stars. You only get a certain number of recruiting points each year to fill your 25. These ranking services are getting more accurate every year. These schools win “top recruiting class” based on the rankings anyway. Why not cap it.
This post was edited on 12/30/20 at 10:46 am
Posted on 12/30/20 at 10:46 am to CajunPhil
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For Alabama, Ohio State, and Clemson, year in and year out they waltz in playing weak in-conference schedules and out-of -conference rent a wins.
So the SEC Big Ten and ACC have weak conferences, who do you want them to play?
Posted on 12/30/20 at 10:52 am to GirthBrooks62
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Bama Clemson Ohio State repetition. That’s essentially 3 guaranteed spots each with a pocket loss.
This. Everyone else is playing for one spot. Recruits go to those 3 schools because they want to be in the playoffs. It’s blocks-out everyone else. They’re just the schools that happened to be rocking when the playoffs began.
Posted on 12/30/20 at 11:09 am to AtlantaLSUfan
Cut football scholarships by 50%.
Posted on 12/30/20 at 11:22 am to CalTiger53
"The answer to all your questions is: Money" [quote from late TV sports producer Don Ohlmeyer]
Posted on 12/30/20 at 11:26 am to Decisions
Can not do that: then yours taking the choice away from the athlete.?We live in America not Iran:(
Posted on 12/30/20 at 11:31 am to tigerbru17
The issue with this is that these are students. It isn't the NFL draft where they have to play for whoever chooses them. The students are the ones doing the choosing.
Posted on 12/30/20 at 11:39 am to Jaydeaux
quote:Why would the NFL change anything? The current system works very well for them.
I tend to agree with this. IF the NFL cared about it’s free farm system they would work with College Football to promote better practices and habits. IF there were simple rules that said stay and play as well as you can’t quit this would be simple. No consequences no change in behavior.
Posted on 12/30/20 at 11:40 am to RidiculousHype
quote:How did kids get to know all the programs before video games?
has been broken since they stopped making the NCAA Football video game. Kids don't get to know all the different programs anymore.
Posted on 12/30/20 at 11:51 am to Meatflap
They are doing the choosing based on the offer from the school. They would only be choosing the school that has the room. Unless of course you’re hell bent on playing for Bama and decide to “grey shirt.”
Posted on 12/30/20 at 1:37 pm to Gravitiger
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How did kids get to know all the programs before video games?
was joking.. but really it's time to bring the game back
Posted on 12/30/20 at 4:17 pm to CalTiger53
Want to “fix” it?
1) Admit it’s about football and academics are secondary;
2) Leave the useless, life sucking NCAA;
3) No minimum gpa or ACT scores for recruits;
4) No drug testing (not for narcotics, steroids, horse tranquilizers, nada!)
5) Worker’s Comp. coverage for players;
6) Players must play for 4 seasons;
7) Any coach caught violating the few rules that are left are banned for life;
8) Players retain 25% of funds generated from their name or likeness, school gets 75%:
9) 14 game regular season; and
10) 16 team playoff where strength of schedule is a major factor in selection.
Oh yeah, I’m case you for got, leave the NCAA!!!
GEAUX TIGERS!!!
1) Admit it’s about football and academics are secondary;
2) Leave the useless, life sucking NCAA;
3) No minimum gpa or ACT scores for recruits;
4) No drug testing (not for narcotics, steroids, horse tranquilizers, nada!)
5) Worker’s Comp. coverage for players;
6) Players must play for 4 seasons;
7) Any coach caught violating the few rules that are left are banned for life;
8) Players retain 25% of funds generated from their name or likeness, school gets 75%:
9) 14 game regular season; and
10) 16 team playoff where strength of schedule is a major factor in selection.
Oh yeah, I’m case you for got, leave the NCAA!!!
GEAUX TIGERS!!!
Posted on 12/30/20 at 5:07 pm to CalTiger53
Crazy thought...probably a real dumb thought...but here goes nothing.
Allow schools to pay players, but have a hard cap. If they can sign 25 players per class, allow each school $10 million (or some amount that is the same for every single D1 FBS school) that they can use to pay those players in whatever way them deem fit. The catch...take away scholarships. Now that they're getting paid, players must pay their own way with tuition, room and board, etc like any regular student. Most schools wouldn't lose a ton of money because basically scholarship expenses become the salary cap. Salary of each player would be public and if boosters are ever caught adding a single dollar or a single "benefit" to a player or their family, drop the hammer on the program instantly. If that player wants more money, the program can give them more...at the expense of paying other guys less.
If the amount was $10 million and it was divided evenly, that would be $400,000 per player. $100,000 per year with a signed contract. That's more than enough to attend most D1 schools. If a player leaves after 3 years or "opts out", they must pay back that $100,000 or whatever the portion of the contract for that year was (should not be a problem at all if they are actually good enough to leave early and get drafted the top rounds. For players who redshirt along the way, give them the option to sign an additional 1 year/$100,000 contract.
This might make the NCAA more even across the board. Yes all these 5*s could go to Alabama or Clemson or Ohio State, but what if Georgia Tech offers one of the 5*s a million instead of $400,000? Yes that puts the rest of the players at a smaller amount, but Georgia Tech isn't going to pull a ton of big recruits anyways. Small schools could lure kids away with bigger offers. If better players want more money that's fine, they're just going to have to avoid going the same school as 10 other top players all wanting big money because there wouldn't be enough to go around.
This would stop so many kids from opting out or leaving early when they probably shouldn't, because they might actually have something to lose, especially if they were to leave early on bad advice and go undrafted.
Like I said at the beginning...this may be a completely awful idea. Schools would obviously try to abuse the system and come up with more booster money to pay kids with...NCAA would have to make serious examples out of the big names as soon as they're caught. It would probably end up being a broken system eventually, but hell...so is the current system.
Allow schools to pay players, but have a hard cap. If they can sign 25 players per class, allow each school $10 million (or some amount that is the same for every single D1 FBS school) that they can use to pay those players in whatever way them deem fit. The catch...take away scholarships. Now that they're getting paid, players must pay their own way with tuition, room and board, etc like any regular student. Most schools wouldn't lose a ton of money because basically scholarship expenses become the salary cap. Salary of each player would be public and if boosters are ever caught adding a single dollar or a single "benefit" to a player or their family, drop the hammer on the program instantly. If that player wants more money, the program can give them more...at the expense of paying other guys less.
If the amount was $10 million and it was divided evenly, that would be $400,000 per player. $100,000 per year with a signed contract. That's more than enough to attend most D1 schools. If a player leaves after 3 years or "opts out", they must pay back that $100,000 or whatever the portion of the contract for that year was (should not be a problem at all if they are actually good enough to leave early and get drafted the top rounds. For players who redshirt along the way, give them the option to sign an additional 1 year/$100,000 contract.
This might make the NCAA more even across the board. Yes all these 5*s could go to Alabama or Clemson or Ohio State, but what if Georgia Tech offers one of the 5*s a million instead of $400,000? Yes that puts the rest of the players at a smaller amount, but Georgia Tech isn't going to pull a ton of big recruits anyways. Small schools could lure kids away with bigger offers. If better players want more money that's fine, they're just going to have to avoid going the same school as 10 other top players all wanting big money because there wouldn't be enough to go around.
This would stop so many kids from opting out or leaving early when they probably shouldn't, because they might actually have something to lose, especially if they were to leave early on bad advice and go undrafted.
Like I said at the beginning...this may be a completely awful idea. Schools would obviously try to abuse the system and come up with more booster money to pay kids with...NCAA would have to make serious examples out of the big names as soon as they're caught. It would probably end up being a broken system eventually, but hell...so is the current system.
Posted on 12/30/20 at 5:18 pm to TigerDentist
Simple rank all players coming out of high school. Limit Div 1 colleges to 75 scholarship players. Also calculate the recruits by rank and limit the value of the recruits. This will force Div 1 schools to pick players that will play and not simply recruit to keep them away from other schools. It will also stop schools from dominating year over year.
Posted on 12/30/20 at 5:19 pm to CalTiger53
I have yet to hear one argument why the following is a bad idea to increase parity in CFB:
No more signing 25 per year. You can sign 18.
No more max of 85 scholarship players per year. You can have 65.
Within 3-4 seasons, the parity in CFB would be incredible.
No more signing 25 per year. You can sign 18.
No more max of 85 scholarship players per year. You can have 65.
Within 3-4 seasons, the parity in CFB would be incredible.
Posted on 12/30/20 at 5:35 pm to CalTiger53
Much of this thread is a grotesque overreaction, as is the article that prompted it. CFB is not "broken." Every era of CFB has featured its own set of powerhouse programs that dominated championship opportunities. Florida State, Nebraska, and Florida in the 1990s. Miami, Penn State, Notre Dame, Oklahoma in the 1980s. Before that, Notre Dame. Alabama, Oklahoma, USC. Going all the way back to Minnesota in the late 30s and early 40s, and further back still to Yale in the 1880s. Nothing has changed, except for the fact that certain fans and commentators today want to portray the situation as a function of some broader structural or social inequity - the oh-so-fashionable view of the hour.
Posted on 12/30/20 at 5:45 pm to CalTiger53
(1) Require a college degree for the NFL. 3yr salary/bonus caps for JUCO degrees.
(2) Reduce scholarship limits, require academic components for some, but broaden their terms (e.g.: 6yrs to play 4?).
(3) Eliminate transfer portal. Alternative: 1yr NFL salary/bonus cap for any transfer who didn't sit out.
(4) Limit conferences to 12 teams.
(2) Reduce scholarship limits, require academic components for some, but broaden their terms (e.g.: 6yrs to play 4?).
(3) Eliminate transfer portal. Alternative: 1yr NFL salary/bonus cap for any transfer who didn't sit out.
(4) Limit conferences to 12 teams.
Posted on 12/30/20 at 6:33 pm to OldNo.7
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I’d like to see them eliminate any pre-season rankings.
You can't keep the sports media, or anyone else, from putting out pre-season rankings. Its not against the law. The CFP rankings don't come out until a couple weeks into the season which I agree is a good thing.
This post was edited on 12/30/20 at 6:34 pm
Posted on 12/30/20 at 9:35 pm to CalTiger53
I tend to think allowing players to have their own image rights and endorsements could go a long way towards national parity.
5 star guys can spread out more around the country searching for the best endorsement deals in those markets. Do you go to Bama as the 6th 5* and get somewhat lost in the mix (to go with the rest of the stocked roster) or do you go to UW because Seattle is a larger market and wants success? I really think the math there would change a LOT of things.
5 star guys can spread out more around the country searching for the best endorsement deals in those markets. Do you go to Bama as the 6th 5* and get somewhat lost in the mix (to go with the rest of the stocked roster) or do you go to UW because Seattle is a larger market and wants success? I really think the math there would change a LOT of things.
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