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Why would O hire Mason to run a 2-gap scheme?

Posted on 12/22/20 at 10:34 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 10:34 am
He made a big deal getting rid of his rival Dave Aranda and his 2-gap scheme to run a 1-gap "attacking" defense.

Mason's line-LB scheme is exactly what O tried to get away from. He runs a 2-gap, read and react type of D. I believe it has lots of zone, too.

Wouldn't this put guys like Roy and Maason Smith at risk of leaving?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 10:35 am to
really hoping for a more inspired hire than Mason personally.
Posted by deuce985
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 10:36 am to
Possibly but I think he's looking at the roster and seeing that guys could convert to that scheme...maybe. I think if this is the guy he's concerned guys like Webb are going to leave the team since they were recruited for a 3-4. I agree with you though, the team would lack an identity and just add to problems. It might not be O's decision either seeing as how Woodward fricked up on Pelini.

Mason hire would also guarantee Davis doesn't commit back. It still doesn't make sense when you look at how they just recruited they're 4-3 guys.
This post was edited on 12/22/20 at 10:37 am
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 10:37 am to
quote:

He made a big deal getting rid of his rival Dave Aranda
Huh?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 10:39 am to
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Huh?

He threw passive aggressive shade on Aranda and his D every chance he got after he left.

Leading to the absurd claim that our D was better in the 2020 offseason than at any time in 2019
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 10:39 am to
It wouldn’t make sense, unless he’s just willing to just change his philosophy and run something else.
Posted by deuce985
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 10:40 am to
Freeman might've told LSU thanks but no thanks for all we know. We're not exactly a stable program right now so even throwing money around especially after seeing how LSU just canned a guy in 1 year doesn't mean we can get a homerun hire. At some point coaches will take notice and middle finger you. It's not like they handled Miles well either when they canned him.
This post was edited on 12/22/20 at 10:41 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 10:40 am to
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unless he’s just willing to just change his philosophy and run something else.

i mean he CLEARLY has no problem doing this (see: offensive choices from 2017-2020), but his leash is now super short
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 10:41 am to
Sorry I’m talking about Mason
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 10:42 am to
oh my bad. that sounds like a disaster though. he made his name with a 2-gap scheme. hiring that guy to run a 1-gap 4-3 seems insane
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
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38944 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 10:43 am to
Hey he saw Pelini’s pay day
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 10:44 am to
quote:

Leading to the absurd claim that our D was better in the 2020 offseason than at any time in 2019


Way too much is made of these comments. Coaches talk up their team and players all the time and are wrong.

News alert: Coaches exaggerate and even, gasp, lie!
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38944 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 10:45 am to
I don’t see why we don’t take another shot at Odom.

Just looked at his salary...$3.05M. Damn Arky
This post was edited on 12/22/20 at 10:48 am
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
15955 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 10:45 am to
I agree when it comes to offense he will do whatever needs to be done. Defense is a different story since that is his side of the ball. He has a style in mind of how he wants his defense to play. He put with Aranda but didn’t like the scheme.
Posted by 610man
Louisiana
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 10:47 am to
If its Mason, O will be fired in 2 years
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 10:48 am to
You have to look at the current and incoming roster changes though. Smith is a big dude there's a good possibility he could fit that scheme just fine. BJ, Webb, etc. were recruited for a 3-4. There's rumors BJ might be leaving too even though he played a lot this year. They might want that scheme on defense. It might be from player input we really don't know. You'd have 1 year recruiting to the 4-3. As long as the DC isn't an idiot and runs hybrid schemes to player strengths it shouldn't be an issue. Aranda did it his first year here because he was smart enough to do it. I have no idea if Mason is capable I just know of him from Stanford when he had good defenses there. I'm more concerned that he never really did anything against SEC teams. Stanford played some good teams every now and then but it wasn't consistent...

You have to question can Mason run a high level scheme top to bottom in the SEC. Plenty of great DCs OOC come over here and just shite the bed which is what he has done even though his talent wasn't good.
This post was edited on 12/22/20 at 10:51 am
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 12/22/20 at 10:58 am to
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Why would O hire Mason to run a 2-gap scheme?



Because O is lazy and doesn’t put much thought into his hires. But I don’t blame him. The LSU AD and TAF have been there to bail him out every time he comes hat-in-hand begging for buyout money. Why work hard and put effort into building a staff when you’ve never been held accountable.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34324 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 10:59 am to
Agree, it makes no sense to start a scheme transition then walk it back after a year.

Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78207 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 11:02 am to
Webb is less of a concern to me than Smith and Roy being put in a 2 gap scheme.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
36394 posts
Posted on 12/22/20 at 11:09 am to
This is starting to get like his philosophy on offenses which can be surmised as he wants to spread it out pro style with the ability to run just like he had at usc
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