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The most disturbing thing about the reversed Boutte TD catch

Posted on 11/29/20 at 7:58 pm
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/29/20 at 7:58 pm
Inn addition to taking six points away from LSU the most disturbing thing about the reversed Boutte TD catch was the official simply said " the pass was incomplete " w2ithout providing an explanation which always occurs when the call on the field is reversed. If it confirms they simply say the ruling on the filed is confirmed. Wonder if he was instructed to make a ruling he did not agree with?

Something seemed off in that whole sequence. There may have been a legitimate reason to overturn the catch but it was not apparent.

Unlike the NFL the receiver does not have retain possession all the way to the ground. Once he has possession with one foot in bounds and crosses the goal line all other factors are irrelevant. The play is over at that point and all other factors are irrelevant,
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27888 posts
Posted on 11/29/20 at 7:59 pm to
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There may have been a legitimate reason to overturn the catch

Yes, the fact that it was incomplete.
Posted by Fishhead
Elmendorf, TX
Member since Jan 2008
12190 posts
Posted on 11/29/20 at 8:00 pm to
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Unlike the NFL the receiver does not have retain possession all the way to the ground. Once he has possession with one foot in bounds and crosses the goal line all other factors are irrelevant. The play is over at that point and all other factors are irrelevant,
Please provide a link to this in the rule book.
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
10385 posts
Posted on 11/29/20 at 8:01 pm to
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Yes, the fact that it was incomplete.



You are as informative as the official.
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
13071 posts
Posted on 11/29/20 at 8:01 pm to
I don’t think you’re right about the rule.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69355 posts
Posted on 11/29/20 at 8:01 pm to
it was an incomplete pass. what don't you understand?

he didn't complete the process and ball was bobbling.
Posted by luciouslou
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2017
6723 posts
Posted on 11/29/20 at 8:02 pm to
That was a catch
Posted by MONROE
In the belly of the beast
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 11/29/20 at 8:03 pm to
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That was a catch


No it wasn’t! Take off the purple and gold glasses
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27888 posts
Posted on 11/29/20 at 8:03 pm to
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You are as informative as the official.

When he gained control of the ball his foot came down on the line. What part are you confused about?
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
10385 posts
Posted on 11/29/20 at 8:06 pm to
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Please provide a link to this in the rule book.


Its common football knowledge, Possession of the football in the end zone is a TD. Play is over both from the stand point of crossing the goal and also having then stepped out of bounds,
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 11/29/20 at 8:08 pm to
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Its common football knowledge, Possession of the football in the end zone is a TD. Play is over both from the stand point of crossing the goal and also having then stepped out of bounds,




Too bad that didn't happen on this play
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27321 posts
Posted on 11/29/20 at 8:08 pm to
He wasn't bubbling the ball

The reason it wasn't a catch is because his foot didnt come down in the endzone.
It came down outside the endzone and them he fell over the pylon
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
10385 posts
Posted on 11/29/20 at 8:10 pm to
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When he gained control of the ball his foot came down on the line. What part are you confused about?

He had one foot in bounds. Again, if there was a reason to overturn it was never stated.

Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27888 posts
Posted on 11/29/20 at 8:11 pm to
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He wasn't bubbling the ball

The reason it wasn't a catch is because his foot didnt come down in the endzone.
It came down outside the endzone and them he fell over the pylon

He did initially bobble it or else it would have been a catch because his first foot was in bounds. He bobbled it then the next foot was out of bounds.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27888 posts
Posted on 11/29/20 at 8:12 pm to
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He had one foot in bounds.

Before he had control/possession of the ball.
Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
15853 posts
Posted on 11/29/20 at 8:12 pm to
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luciouslou
You are a moron and repeatedly demonstrate your stupidity with every post. Ban yourself.
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
10385 posts
Posted on 11/29/20 at 8:13 pm to
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It came down outside the endzone and them he fell over the pylon


That is always a TD. Happened earlier on the long Aggie TD run.
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10234 posts
Posted on 11/29/20 at 8:14 pm to
bullshite it was a catch. Ball should have been spotted at 1/2 yard line.
Posted by marcnbc
Bossier City, LA
Member since May 2004
4178 posts
Posted on 11/29/20 at 8:14 pm to
Was not a catch and here’s the rule. When the ball moved slightly from Boutte’s hand to his body while out of bounds...it became an incomplete pass at that point. He does all that and falls down in the EZ...it’s a touchdown.

“Secures control of a live ball in flight before the ball touches the ground, and touches the ground in bounds with any part of his body, and then maintains control of the ball long enough to enable him to perform an act common to the game, i.e., long enough to pitch or hand the ball, advance it, avoid or ward off an opponent, etc.”

Boutte did not perform an act common to the game before there was movement of the ball while he was falling down and he landed out of bounds.

“If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent) he must maintain complete and continuous control of the ball throughout the process of contacting the ground, whether in the field of play or in the end zone. This is also required for a player attempting to make a catch at the sideline and going to the ground out of bounds. If he loses control of the ball which then touches the ground before he regains control, it is not a catch. If he regains control inbounds prior to the ball touching the ground it is a catch.”



LINK
This post was edited on 11/29/20 at 8:28 pm
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
10385 posts
Posted on 11/29/20 at 8:15 pm to
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He did initially bobble it or else it would have been a catch because his first foot was in bounds. He bobbled it then the next foot was out of bounds.


I wouldn't disagree, but never saw any real concrete video of the ball being bobbled. If that was the call the official should have said it.
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