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Posted on 11/16/20 at 4:17 pm to
Posted by jscrims
Lost
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 11/16/20 at 4:17 pm to
I’m confused. Was it a year once he was diagnosed or a year once it spread to the bones?
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
3737 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 4:22 pm to
Book I recommend:HOW WE DO HARM by Otis Bradley,MD.He is the chief medical officer for the American Cancer Society.Very good information about prostate cancer and treatment.
Posted by The Goon
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2008
1254 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 4:24 pm to
It began with a high PSA number. The doctors suggested a prostate removal to stop the spread. Prostate was removed, but the cancer had already spread, but they did not know exactly where.

Radiation therapy over the years slowed the spread and his PSA numbers were up and down over the treatments until it was found in his bones. Less than a year later a tumor formed on his back and then eventually led to him unable to walk. He was mid therapy and the doctor told him to stop, and then the family was called in for the prognosis that his body was starting to shut down and was moved to hospice care.

Cancer is different for everyone responding to radiation and other treatments, but once it was found in the bones things went downhill very fast.
Posted by cattleman
South La.
Member since Feb 2006
254 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 4:29 pm to
Very sorry to hear that . As stated by others once you have prostate cancer the options are few . I was diagnosed 2years ago and had it removed. I’m cancer free but the side effects are terrible. You’re never the same .
Posted by shoelessjoe
Member since Jul 2006
9958 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 4:56 pm to
Sorry to hear that. frick CANCER!!!
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15596 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 5:12 pm to
That's how prostate cancer is bad. It's relatively treatable when caught early. But metastasis is when it gets out of control. I'm not saying it isn't treatable. I just think it's more of a challenge.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9477 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 5:28 pm to
A surprisingly large number of Americans (at least to me) are diagnosed and die of prostate cancer each year. Something ridiculous, like one in six or seven of men are diagnosed with it. A doctor told me that if undiagnosed cases were included, the rate would be even higher. Most don't die from it, but some do. (Like Vince Flynn, of Mitch Rapp fame. All the money, fame and Mayo Clinic treatment couldn't help him. I think he was only 44.)

Do what you've got to do. There are unpleasant side effects of treatment, but what's the alternative? It wasn't anything I want to repeat and was very inconvenient, but it was't that bad. Things could be a whole hell of a lot worse.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9477 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 5:33 pm to
Right. I was very lucky that I had gall stones that finally caused enough discomfort to get me to a doctor. Lab work uncovered my high PSA. The rest is history.

Still have my semi-functioning gall bladder!
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61491 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 5:36 pm to
Thats strange because prostate cancer usually grows very slow and has a very good prognosis. Is this person someone who doesn't go to the doctor much or ignores a lot of symptoms?
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9477 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 5:59 pm to
If you're waiting for prostate cancer to cause you pain, you're probably too late.

I had zero symptoms before I was diagnosed. No urinary problems, etc. If I hadn't had the pain from my gall stones, I'd still be walking around fat, dumb, and happy. And oblivious.
Posted by OverseasBengal
Member since Dec 2018
1107 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 7:02 pm to
I don't know if it was metastatic but my dad had prostate cancer that spread to his bones and he lived for about 6 years after the original diagnosis. This was just over a decade ago so I don't know if treatment has improved or not now.
Posted by jscrims
Lost
Member since May 2008
3566 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 7:43 pm to
That is very promising. The bone scan didn’t come back great today. We find out the grading later this week so that will let us know how bad it really is.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9477 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 8:18 pm to
The worst period for me was after I saw the bone scan and had all kinds of shite lit up. Both knees, both shoulders, my sternum, and most disturbingly, a rather significant spot on my forehead. To a much lesser degree, my pelvic girdle, which was of concern, to say the least.

My brother, an MD, told me not to worry because a bone scan is a blunt instrument. I don't think either one of us really believed what he was saying, but it got me through the next couple of weeks until I had MRI and CT scans. Needless to say, I was a nervous wreck.

After my cancer was graded/staged, it was actually easier for me. I knew what I was dealing with and able to move forward with a course of treatment.
Posted by Flashback
reading the chicken bones
Member since Apr 2008
8354 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 8:24 pm to
I know guy with issue and is tolerating well with mild chemo. The damndest thing is that he had his prostate removed years ago and still has elevated PSA numbers from the cancer that metastasized in his bones.
Posted by MeridianDog
Home on the range
Member since Nov 2010
14275 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 8:43 pm to
I feel concerned for everyone here who has this disease and will pray for you. My dad had prostate cancer, so I am a risk. My PSA goes up and down, often within a week or two, so I have the test run often and try not to think too much about it. The results are what they are. I have good doctors who care and remain schooled in the latest treatments and concerns.

When my dad got his bad news, they told him something else would likely kill him. Knowing this he opted for the surgical removal of his prostate.

He died of Dementia. Most of the time I wish he had let the cancer kill him. I would choose prostate cancer over dementia any day, but that is me.

Off topic. I have a good friend who is an internist. He told me a year or so back that they have "cured" so many medical problems that cancer and dementia/Altimeters is all we have left to kill us. Our discussion was pre Covid.
This post was edited on 11/16/20 at 8:48 pm
Posted by zippyputt
Member since Jul 2005
5824 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 9:55 pm to
No info for you, but prayers regardless.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56244 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 10:01 pm to
Threads like make me realize just how many of the people around you every day have some serious health issues.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19480 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 10:32 pm to
OP,you are getting a lot of advice & comments about prostate cancer, all of which are good & share a lot in common. One thing that has been repeated often is that cancer is a very individualistic disease. That is 1000% true. So in that context, take what you feel is relevant to your situation & discuss it with your physician. As they say, the only dumb question is the one not asked. However, since you asked about metastatic prostate cancer that has spread to the bones, all that I can offer, taking you at your word that you want / need to know about real life experiences : I had asked my 3 radiation therapists who treated my prostate cancer with 39 weeks of radiation ( I am great, PSA # dropped from an initial 11 to .015) if they would undergo chemo treatment. All 3 are in their mid to late 20's, i.e. a full life ahead. All 3 said that they would take quality of life over any possible extended life expectancy. That is, they won't trade mabe 1-2 at best more yrs with suffering over a shorter period of time, suffering greatly reduced. What many do not understand is that cancer is very very painful. And the family suffers, too. Not meaning to be blunt, but this MY experience, not my advice.
This post was edited on 11/16/20 at 10:34 pm
Posted by SpotCheckBilly
Member since May 2020
6632 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 10:38 pm to
Happened to my dad. He had prostate cancer, was treated. Everything good for a few years. Went in for a routine PSA check, scored a 56. I suggested he get a second test to make sure. Two weeks later he got a 62. The doctor told me he would make it six months. He made it seven. Was able to stay at home for five of those seven. Then he fell, which the doctor predicted, and went down quickly, but recovered. Spent the last six weeks in a nursing home.
Sorry to hear this, I really am. Enjoy your time with your friend. If there are things you want to do, do them now. Don't put things off.
Posted by Outdoorreb
Member since Oct 2019
2580 posts
Posted on 11/16/20 at 10:42 pm to
Hate to hear that man. I am sort of in the same boat as you are. I was just told today by a MAN I have the utmost respect for and love for that he was diagnosed with Prostate Cancer. Luckily his was caught super early, and they are only watching it as of now. It broke my heart, but all I could do was listen and keep working on our decoys that we will use this weekend. I don’t even know if I am glad I know, or that I wish I didn’t know as of now. It has constantly been on my mind since 3:00 this afternoon.

Prayers sent to all that are affected by this medical illness. You never know when you or a love one will be affected by an illness.

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