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re: Creole vs Cajun

Posted on 11/7/20 at 12:32 pm to
Posted by Gris Gris
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Posted on 11/7/20 at 12:32 pm to
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Tried kartchners boudin this week. Wasn’t impressed.


Did you have the smoked boudin?
Posted by The Levee
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Posted on 11/7/20 at 1:00 pm to
What were they before Acadians? Oh right, French.
This post was edited on 11/7/20 at 1:01 pm
Posted by The Levee
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Posted on 11/7/20 at 1:03 pm to
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No. You’re drawing lines in all the wrong places, and trying to create distinct categories where none truly exist. Plus ignoring the Spanish influence (LA was a Spanish colony far longer than it was French). And conflating the bayou Cajuns of SE LA (more of whom are truly descended from Acadian refugees) with the creole ignores the lived realities of contemporary folks who still speak French and eat ridiculous amounts of seafood.


Spanish is a huge influence on creole.
This post was edited on 11/7/20 at 1:04 pm
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 11/7/20 at 1:06 pm to
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What were they before Acadians? Oh right, French.


No shite, but you think they only settled west of the Vermilion River?
Posted by The Levee
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Posted on 11/7/20 at 1:09 pm to
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No shite, but you think they only settled west of the Vermilion River?




Not only, but for the most part. The Vermillion is a good barrier. Breaux Bridge is an exception.
Posted by The Levee
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Posted on 11/7/20 at 1:09 pm to
Acadian Cajuns ARE different than Prairie Cajuns too.
Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 11/7/20 at 2:02 pm to
If anything, the Teche creates the eastern Cajun boundary.

But yes, Prairie Cajuns > all others
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
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Posted on 11/7/20 at 2:24 pm to
“Cajun” is literally a mispronunciation of the word “Acadian” .

You’re not a Cajun if you’re not of Acadian descent.

Now, there is a difference between Bayou and Prairie Cajuns.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 11/7/20 at 2:42 pm to
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This board's obsession with their overly smoked sausage where the wood was at the wrong temp always confuses me.

If I wanted something that tasted like only mesquite smoke I'd buy sausage from Texas.


Teets, Kartchners, Rabideaux's are all amazing. It's smoked. It's supposed to have a smoke flavor.

FTR, I've tried probably two dozen TX sausages. Nothing like the aforementioned.
Posted by mets69
youngsville
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Posted on 11/7/20 at 3:29 pm to
Creole depends on what day of week. Reason the definition of creole changes daily. Creole’s are white, one example people of French ancestry but not from the Cajun migration from Canada. That is one of many
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
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Posted on 11/7/20 at 4:22 pm to
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Not only, but for the most part. The Vermillion is a good barrier. Breaux Bridge is an exception.

You need to get out a LA map and read some LA settlement history during the colonial period. The initial Acadian exile settlements were NOT to the Attakapas prairies or up the Teche....those settlers came up the MS river and settled the river and spread down Bayou Lafourche. To act as though the old, historic cajun settlement East of the Atchafalaya doesn’t exist is ridiculous.

Prairie doesn’t even open up to large scale settlement until the railroad era. Mamou and Eunice date from 1890-1900. Many of the so-called “cajuns” of the prairie are not descended from actual Acadian exiles. They’re French immigrants, in many cases, but not actual Acadian descendants.

Acadian exiles settled in Assumption and upper Lafourche circa 1755-1765. Lafourche and Terrebonne have some of the highest rates of native french speakers remaining in south Louisiana. This is not “Creole”, but a distinct Bayou cajun folk culture.
Posted by joeleblanc
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 11/8/20 at 12:01 am to
No. Just ‘regular’ boudin
Posted by joeleblanc
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 11/8/20 at 12:02 am to
Sonic. Tomorrow. 9am. Pack a lunch. It will be a long day for you

Honestly I’ve had better rice dressing. It wasn’t flavorful at all.
This post was edited on 11/8/20 at 12:04 am
Posted by lazy
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 11/8/20 at 12:12 am to
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You’re not a Cajun if you’re not of Acadian descent.



Tell me which family tree is most important. I have acadians, french, German and Croats, scottish and irish on my branches.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 11/8/20 at 7:31 am to
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Tell me which family tree is most important. I have acadians, french, German and Croats, scottish and irish on my branches.


I’m sure a lot of people in Louisiana have a similar mix, but the Cajun part of your heritage is the Acadians. I have Acadian and French immigrant (non-Acadian), along with some Spanish, Native American, German, and English/Scottish.
This post was edited on 11/8/20 at 7:33 am
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 11/8/20 at 2:29 pm to
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The Vermillion river separates the Creole east from the Cajun west.

This is just flat wrong



Yeah that geography makes no sense. The Vermillion doesn’t separate anything culturally.



Exactly, tell my husband who is from Terrebonne Parish that he is not Cajun.
Posted by Darla Hood
Near that place by that other place
Member since Aug 2012
14077 posts
Posted on 11/8/20 at 2:44 pm to
Maybe you mean the Atchafalaya? Which still isn’t the answer, but at least there are some foodways that might be east or west of the Atchafalaya.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 11/8/20 at 3:18 pm to
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You need to get out a LA map and read some LA settlement history during the colonial period. The initial Acadian exile settlements were NOT to the Attakapas prairies or up the Teche....those settlers came up the MS river and settled the river and spread down Bayou Lafourche. To act as though the old, historic cajun settlement East of the Atchafalaya doesn’t exist is ridiculous.

Prairie doesn’t even open up to large scale settlement until the railroad era. Mamou and Eunice date from 1890-1900. Many of the so-called “cajuns” of the prairie are not descended from actual Acadian exiles. They’re French immigrants, in many cases, but not actual Acadian descendants.

Acadian exiles settled in Assumption and upper Lafourche circa 1755-1765. Lafourche and Terrebonne have some of the highest rates of native french speakers remaining in south Louisiana. This is not “Creole”, but a distinct Bayou cajun folk culture.


The first exiles settled along bayou teche and up to Opelousas just as early
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 11/8/20 at 3:25 pm to
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think there are a couple of pockets outside of New Orleans that call themselves Creole rather than Cajun. I think one of these is around Natchitoches. And remember, Tony Chacherie's is called Creole Seasoning, and he was from Opelousas.

ETA: "The Cane River Colony was a colony founded by Marie Theresa "CoinCoin," a former African slave and the children of her relationship with Claude Thomas Pierre Metoyer, a Frenchman, on Isle Brevelle just south of Natchitoches in central Louisiana."

These folks probably identified as Creole under the second meaning of the term.



St Landry parish around Opelousas/lawtell then up to pointe coupee/avoyelles are just as much creole as Cajun if you go by the true definition. But today only people called creole are black or mixed
It’s an awesome culture though. If you ever have the opportunity go to one of the Sunday trail rides
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 11/8/20 at 10:11 pm to
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The Vermillion river separates the Creole east from the Cajun west.



The German coastline says hello you stupid frick.
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