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QB Draw...WTF was that all about?

Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:40 am
Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:40 am
It’s one thing to do it occasionally, and another to try and establish it as a big part of your game plan

He’s a freshman and not exactly Lamar Jackson
This post was edited on 10/25/20 at 11:21 am
Posted by TankBoys32
Member since Mar 2019
3529 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:42 am to
It would have been cool to see Max come in and do a couple of taysom hill type plays to mix it up, but Finley played so well you had to keep the hot hand.
Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
5249 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:46 am to
Finley was incredible throwing

Finley’s worst plays were the designed draws which looked forced and clumsy AF
Posted by Locoguan0
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2017
6168 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:47 am to
One game and TJ was already a little gimpy before he was pulled. He is just big. He isn't fast nor is he a natural runner.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61109 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:47 am to
The Rant thinks he's Cam Newton 2.0
Posted by ibleedprplngld
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4514 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:48 am to
They clearly put in a game plan that was designed to work for either TJ or Max. Whoever won the competition would just execute the game plan. Max is more of a runner than TJ.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
23438 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:50 am to
You guys just don’t get it?

You think those play calls were an accident and served no purpose?

Hey, everyone has their own way to enjoy the games.
Posted by tigerfan84
Member since Dec 2003
23385 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 10:51 am to
Still better than Les running the option with Mettenberger
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12840 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:12 am to
TJ's first step is VERY slow, but his second step is very long.
Reminded me of the Arky QB a few years ago, who had a stride of about 6-8 yds.
MIles first step is VERY slow and so is his second, etc.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61109 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:13 am to
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TJ's first step is VERY slow, but his second step is very long.
Reminded me of the Arky QB a few years ago, who had a stride of about 6-8 yds.
MIles first step is VERY slow and so is his second, etc.


Myles and TJ run the same 40 time
Posted by LSUDobber
Hammond, LA
Member since Jun 2004
895 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:14 am to
Didn't like it
Posted by Geaux23
Member since Sep 2012
5896 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:15 am to
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Myles and TJ run the same 40 time


I would’ve guessed Myles to be faster
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:18 am to
I didn’t love it, but he ran that in high school and I think they were just trying to make him comfortable and get into the flow of the game. If he were to play going forward, I don’t think you would see much of that.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
23438 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:22 am to
You will see as much of that as necessary to make them defend it

It’s what allows the passing lanes to remain open
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
15541 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:24 am to
They put in a game plan that could be run by either TJ or Max. I doubt you see those runs if TJ was named the starter from jump.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
23438 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:26 am to
It’s nothing to do with his running ability/speed

It’s everything to do with the ability to allow the QB to run

It doesn’t matter what Myles runs in the 40, when we can’t call plays that require him to run, or that allow him to take a hit as a runner

He also doesn’t possess the physical tools to shed a rusher and still have the arm strength to make them pay by hitting the open man that wasn’t covered by that rusher
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4096 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:27 am to
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It’s one thing to do it occasionally, and another to try and establish it as a big part of your game plan

He’s a freshman and not exactly Lamar Jackson


Well the one thing TJ showed he could do is take a snap under center, I think his freshman year in HS, his team ran the old Veer so his HS coaches taught him to take a snap under center. 99.99% of HS QB's today have never taken a snap under center. I remember Coach Ensminger saying that was a problem for QB's that Miles recruited because we were under center 90% of the time.

In Goal line situations I like having the QB under center and running the ball that way so the RB has a 4 yard head of steam when he hits the Line of scrimmage.

So I am not going to wade into a QB controversy but I think TJ will be the clear starter for LSU before he leaves and I think you actually can do more than just line up in the gun with him.

The fact that he was taught to take a snap under center allows for QB sneaks and running some old fashion power running from under center allowing the RB to be full stride hitting the LOS, and you can then run old fashion play action off that as well. Lots of potential versatility with TJ, was coached up well in HS.
Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
5249 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:27 am to
Neither are fast but TJ’s speed factors in more on the field as a weapon because it’s coming at 240 lbs and it has to be defended accordingly

Nobody expected Jamarcus to be an effective college scrambler but it became a weapon for him, not because of his speed but because he was a good passer and a monster of a human which added some layers of how defenders had to handle him
Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
5249 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:30 am to
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You will see as much of that as necessary to make them defend it


They defended it rather easily but a lot of the reason was because timing was off most of the draw plays

quote:

It’s what allows the passing lanes to remain open


Agree but the QB doesn’t have to be the one toting it. We have RBs
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61109 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:34 am to
quote:

It doesn’t matter what Myles runs in the 40, when we can’t call plays that require him to run, or that allow him to take a hit as a runner



Is that a playcalling issue or a Myles issue?

We hadn't called many running plays to anyone before last night.

quote:

He also doesn’t possess the physical tools to shed a rusher and still have the arm strength to make them pay by hitting the open man that wasn’t covered by that rusher


I didn't see Finley do this at all last night, in fact he was rarely ever pressured.

It seemed that Muschamp was satisfied to play coverage and try to bait Finley into making a mistake which is understandable since LSU hadn't shown the ability to run the ball this season.
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