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re: QB Draw...WTF was that all about?

Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:34 am to
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
22271 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:34 am to
No

The QB has to be a viable option. It’s a numbers game

And we had to let them know he was a viable option early and often. Brennan was NEVER an option. By design or otherwise.

By all accounts, Max was the best runner, and TJ stronger arm, but not mobile

We deliberately called those plays

If JR had shown the willingness to run the first half of his last year, we would have played for a NC
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
22271 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:36 am to
Keep reading and watching how this plays out

You will eventually catch up, or not

Everyone enjoys the game in their own way
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24262 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:40 am to
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One game and TJ was already a little gimpy before he was pulled. He is just big. He isn't fast nor is he a natural runner

No, but he is not at all a statue and he moves well for his size (way better than I expected). We don't need him to be a runner. We just need him to be able to escape the pocket and throw on the run if necessary and that looks positive. He is also good with moving the pile and getting a yard on QB sneaks due to his size.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
22271 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:42 am to
Finley wasn’t pressured

It resulted in 17 completions on 21 attempts

Muschamp saw enough to know he didn’t want to send an extra man that wouldn’t get home in time for that quick release, and if he did get home, not be able to bring him down

Can’t you guys see that he rushed 6 times in the 1st Q and scored a TD, but never ran again?

You really think that was just coincidence? LOL
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24262 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:46 am to
It made sense to run Finley a few times though because it made SC think about respecting the QB keeping on runs to the RB where he could have kept it (which is mostly what our running game is). I did not like us running him at all after the game was clearly in control though.

And he did have 8 carries for 24 yards and a TD with a long run of 9, so those are good for QB numbers.
This post was edited on 10/25/20 at 1:02 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52298 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:52 am to
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Can’t you guys see that he rushed 6 times in the 1st Q and scored a TD, but never ran again?



He had two carries in the 4th quarter...
Posted by AndrewD
Member since Oct 2013
709 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:56 am to
Not 100% effective as a weapon but did stop Usc from sending waves of blitzes
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 12:13 pm to
it looked bad but they had to have been doing 2 things with those running plays

1. keeping the defense honest
2. getting Finley settled in. running plays are great for that for many qbs.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39093 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 12:18 pm to
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He also doesn’t possess the physical tools to shed a rusher and still have the arm strength to make them pay by hitting the open man that wasn’t covered by that rusher

What? Every QB on our team has excellent arm strength. Myles Brennan has a canon.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278150 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 12:19 pm to
He was successful enough for the defense had to honor it. They can stack plays off of those principles
Posted by LSUFAN2
Tennessee
Member since Jan 2011
2431 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 12:39 pm to
I agree and why don’t the staff apply that same logic to RB?
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
12860 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 12:49 pm to
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You will see as much of that as necessary to make them defend it

It’s what allows the passing lanes to remain open
exactly.

Remember when Flippy Franks ran the read option (and option) all over us a couple years ago. Same thing.

If they're not defending against it, it doesn't matter if it is his forte or not. He's still a non-kicker D1 athlete that can make some hay out of that until they do something to stop it.

Most significantly, not all of those were draws. Some were read options where he chose to keep it. Boom wanted to get to the young freshman and they were too agressive at times and TJ made the correct read on the DE.

So the read option wasn't introduced because TJ is the second coming of Randall Cunningham. It was put in the game plan because they knew Boom would want to get to him by being aggressive against a OT in only his second start (Wire) on the edge. It wasn't a coincidence most of those runs were to the O-left, where Wire was and opposite his normal rollout side for a right hander.
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 12:51 pm to
yeah, I thought they called that too much myself, no, he's not Lamar Jackson. He can run, but he's big and not fleet afoot, now I can understand calling it for Max Johnson. Also, those saying it was necessary to call it to open the passing lanes, that's just hogwash, the passing lanes were open all night that's why he was riddling SC's secondary all night.
This post was edited on 10/25/20 at 12:55 pm
Posted by TrapperJohn
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
11124 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 12:52 pm to
“TJ's first step is VERY slow, but his second step is very long.
Reminded me of the Arky QB a few years ago, who had a stride of about 6-8 yds.“

Matt Jones was a long strider, but he was a legit 4.4
guy.
This post was edited on 10/25/20 at 12:53 pm
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
12860 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

Matt Jones was a long strider, but he was a legit 4.4
guy.
Matt Jones was pretty damn fast. Fast enough where he became an NFL TE for a little while. And he came into R-Kansas a TE to start with.

I think he's think of Ryan "pill head" Mallett.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
22271 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 6:48 pm to
Dude, I have no response to someone who thinks TJ Finley and Myles Brennan have the same velo and release on their passes?

Do you really stay on these message boards and give opinions you think matter with that amount of perception to reality?

GTFO of here. Seriously
Posted by js1591
Member since Jan 2020
2664 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 6:56 pm to
TJ is twice as big as Miles, can bull his way forward like Tebow did. He won’t be as easy to take down.
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
2720 Arse Whipping Avenue
Member since Dec 2013
35928 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 7:11 pm to
Seemed like E was just giving the defense another thing to look out for, probably trying to setup a pass play (similar to the play in the 4th quarter vs tGumps where Joe faked the run and pulled up to Chase).

TJ is slow but also 6’6” 245lbs. He can get a few yards just falling down. I didn’t hate the call.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
22271 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 7:14 pm to
There was a lot more to it than that

But for a career message board guy like you not to realize it, I am officially retired in my capacity to explain

Carry on.
Posted by Mister Falcon
Member since Dec 2019
435 posts
Posted on 10/25/20 at 7:15 pm to
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One game and TJ was already a little gimpy before he was pulled. He is just big. He isn't fast nor is he a natural runner.


This. I’m so tired of people acting like he’s a good runner in any way shape or form. They just see a black QB and assume.

“The defenses respect his ability to run” no... not at all

MB and TJ tie in a foot race.
This post was edited on 10/25/20 at 7:16 pm
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