- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: The ATL Thread: Offseason
Posted on 10/19/20 at 12:06 am to Hailstate15
Posted on 10/19/20 at 12:06 am to Hailstate15
quote:
Braves fans expected us to trade for Cole or some shite.
No one expected this.
We just wanted someone to replace Josh Tomlin and/or Robbie Erlin in the rotation.
1
Posted on 10/19/20 at 12:07 am to Broski
there was no one better available
Posted on 10/19/20 at 12:08 am to bah humbug
quote:
Fix Acuna and Riley’s long arse slump tendencies
Riley has to learn to recognize pitches, and somehow speed up his bat, because right now, he can't hit anything over 95 MPH, even if he knows it's coming.
Acuna, on the other hand, has all the skills already. But he has a tendency (at least from what it looks like to me, watching his body language) to sulk after a bad game. If he strikes out three times in a game, he'll start taking everything, as if to prove a point that he's not a free swinger, and then starts a string of striking out looking. And when that happens, he reverses course again and starts swinging at the first pitch every at bat and popping up.
He looks like he lets his emotions dictate what he's going to do, rather than just going up there with a solid plan. There's nothing he can't do, when he's focused. It's frustrating how little focus he has, at times.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 12:08 am to Hailstate15
quote:
there was no one better available
You were better than Josh Tomlin and Robbie Erlin.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 12:09 am to Hailstate15
Yes and there were serious warning signs about his health in the underlying data that I posted about around the deadline. He was the only real difference maker and he ended up breaking like the numbers that every team obviously saw suggested was possible. Lynn clearly would have been in the rotation for us but the asking price was apparently astronomical. I don’t know that another pitcher was out there that is even better than Wright/Wilson. Maybe I’m forgetting someone.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 12:09 am to Hailstate15
quote:
there was no one better available
Clevinger was clearly available because he got traded. He is an absolute stud and would have been the guy to take this team over the top. There was no way to predict that he was going to sprain his elbow going into the playoffs. Put a healthy Clevinger on this team and we might have swept the Dodgers.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 12:10 am to Hailstate15
quote:Why should that matter in the context of the day of the trade deadline
and the one good pitcher that was ended up hurt.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 12:10 am to volfan30
I mean we are in the ws without two glaring baserunning error situations.
Without that one tonight we might still be watching this game.
Without that one tonight we might still be watching this game.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 12:11 am to Pettifogger
quote:
But it just always seems like there is some value proposition that keeps us from making a move. I'm sick of "we're not going to force a deal just to make one" from AA. You're going to have to roll the dice and reach.
He will forever be haunted by trading Syndergaard for RA Dickey in Toronto.
This post was edited on 10/19/20 at 12:11 am
Posted on 10/19/20 at 12:11 am to dgnx6
quote:
I mean we are in the ws without two glaring baserunning error situations.
We're also in the World Series if we didn't need to rely on Kyle Wright to make two postseason starts.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 12:12 am to VADawg
Clevinger never made a full start in the playoffs
Posted on 10/19/20 at 12:13 am to Hailstate15
quote:
Clevinger never made a full start in the playoffs
So happy AA knew that was going to happen at the deadline, but you'd think he'd use his clairvoyant powers for more effective uses.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 12:14 am to CaptSpaulding
quote:
He will forever be haunted by trading Syndergaard for RA Dickey in Toronto.
Agree with this and I've said the same thing multiple times on this and other boards.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 12:14 am to VADawg
Clevinger’s spin rate was way down in his last couple starts before the trade and his average FB velo was trending in the wrong direction as well although the drop was negligible compared to the spin rate difference.
I posted in threads around the deadline about possible issues with his delivery or health with such a dramatic spin rate decrease. I’m sure every FO in the game had the same debate which may be why the Padres offer wasn’t beat. That isn’t revisionist as I literally brought it up around the deadline.
If he is right he is a clear difference maker obviously.
I posted in threads around the deadline about possible issues with his delivery or health with such a dramatic spin rate decrease. I’m sure every FO in the game had the same debate which may be why the Padres offer wasn’t beat. That isn’t revisionist as I literally brought it up around the deadline.
If he is right he is a clear difference maker obviously.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 12:15 am to VADawg
quote:
Clevinger was clearly available because he got traded. He is an absolute stud and would have been the guy to take this team over the top. There was no way to predict that he was going to sprain his elbow going into the playoffs. Put a healthy Clevinger on this team and we might have swept the Dodgers
I think the asking price was way too high for him. The Braves don't have the luxury of trading multiple top prospects, like some teams. With the Braves ownership group, they have to develop young players and lock them up early. It's what's given the Braves the core they have now.
The Braves made an "all-in" trade for Mark Teixeira that set the franchise back a decade. And the worst thing is, the Braves weren't even in a position to be buyers that year. Frank Wren is the worst general manager is sports history.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 12:17 am to Metaloctopus
quote:
The Braves don't have the luxury of trading multiple top prospects,
The Padres didn't trade a single one of their top 10 prospects for Clevinger.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 12:19 am to volfan30
quote:
Clevinger’s spin rate was way down in his last couple starts before the trade and his average FB velo was trending in the wrong direction as well although the drop was negligible compared to the spin rate difference.
And he was still better than Josh Tomlin and Robbie Erlin.
The Padres gave up nothing for him and now have his control for a few years. It'll be a huge move for them if he gets back to form and not a big loss if he doesn't.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 12:20 am to Broski
Bauer > Clev WHEN we sign him this off season. It is happening.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 12:24 am to Broski
If he gets back to form and we don’t add to the rotation it will be a big mistake. I can agree with that.
Posted on 10/19/20 at 12:25 am to Metaloctopus
quote:
The Braves made an "all-in" trade for Mark Teixeira that set the franchise back a decade. And the worst thing is, the Braves weren't even in a position to be buyers that year. Frank Wren is the worst general manager is sports history.
Tex was also a rental. Clevinger was not.
Page 5 of 35
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News