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Obama's foreign policy the worst of any president ?
Posted on 8/19/20 at 7:39 pm
Posted on 8/19/20 at 7:39 pm
-The Egyptian and muslim brotherhood meltdown
-Iraq spun out of control
-No progress made in Afghanistan
-Failure to curb spread of radical Islam into Northern Africa
-Traded five terrorists for a traitor
-Hundreds of millions of cash overnight to Iran
-ISIS and the meddling causing the fall of Syria
-meddling and killing of Gadhafi, sending Lybia into a war zone
-Ukraine invaded by Russian troops
- Benghazi. Listing this separately from Lybia because it was just that big of a disaster.
When you list all of these which are not partisan but events that happened regardless of how you want to spin them, he had to be one of the worst presidents ever. This also doesn't include further spiraling of relations with North Korea, perceived worsening of relations with Israel, and the weak stance towards China and their growing aggression in the South China sea.
-Iraq spun out of control
-No progress made in Afghanistan
-Failure to curb spread of radical Islam into Northern Africa
-Traded five terrorists for a traitor
-Hundreds of millions of cash overnight to Iran
-ISIS and the meddling causing the fall of Syria
-meddling and killing of Gadhafi, sending Lybia into a war zone
-Ukraine invaded by Russian troops
- Benghazi. Listing this separately from Lybia because it was just that big of a disaster.
When you list all of these which are not partisan but events that happened regardless of how you want to spin them, he had to be one of the worst presidents ever. This also doesn't include further spiraling of relations with North Korea, perceived worsening of relations with Israel, and the weak stance towards China and their growing aggression in the South China sea.
This post was edited on 8/19/20 at 7:41 pm
Posted on 8/19/20 at 7:39 pm to Tigers0891
Obama was awful.
W was a fricking disaster though.
W was a fricking disaster though.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 7:40 pm to Tigers0891
It's between him and Carter.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 7:40 pm to Tigers0891
his foreign policy was terrible
but, his best policy was in foreign policy (normalizing relations with Cuba)
but, his best policy was in foreign policy (normalizing relations with Cuba)
Posted on 8/19/20 at 7:40 pm to Tigers0891
Yes.
Basically a neo-con.
With no criticism.
Basically a neo-con.
With no criticism.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 7:41 pm to Tigers0891
He was completely incompetent.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 7:41 pm to Tigers0891
He had a real disadvantage though, only president coming at the office from a position of extreme hatred of the country.
That puts a ceiling on your results.
That puts a ceiling on your results.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 7:42 pm to Tigers0891
Sending Uranium to.... RUSSIA!!!!!
Posted on 8/19/20 at 7:42 pm to Tigers0891
Which is amazing all the Obama people came on last night and said how horrible Trump has been at foreign policy. Trump's been our greatest foreign policy president in generations.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 7:44 pm to Tigers0891
If I was to rank best to steaming monkey shite...
Reagan
Trump
GHWB
Clinton
Obama
Carter
W
Reagan
Trump
GHWB
Clinton
Obama
Carter
W
Posted on 8/19/20 at 7:53 pm to Tigers0891
GWB starting the Iraq War is by far the worst FP move since the fall of the USSR. The Afghan War and the Iraq War are what allowed Iran to begin to realize its extraterritorial ambitions, as both neighbors were antagonistic to Iran. Without that immediate threat, two long-term, extremely difficult objectives of the Iranians were satisfied with the Iranians doing very little work. That set the groundwork for Iranian special operations for the past 15 years. The Iraq War also provided a theater in which Iranian military doctrine was sharpened. It was so great a disaster that you cannot include anything that happened after it without acknowledging the role the Iraq War played.
This was almost assured of happening since the 80's. Again, the Bush-Saudi axis ensured this. What else can anyone expect when you work with Wahhabis?
quote:
-Failure to curb spread of radical Islam into Northern Africa
This was almost assured of happening since the 80's. Again, the Bush-Saudi axis ensured this. What else can anyone expect when you work with Wahhabis?
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:06 pm to Tigers0891
Like red lines in the sand, so are the days of our lives
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:12 pm to Tigers0891
Obama and Bush we’re back to back fricking disasters.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:25 pm to Tunasntigers92
quote:
It's between him and Carter.
This reply is so dumb I know it won’t matter responding, but:
Bush II
LBJ
Kennedy
Wilson
All had much, much worse foreign policies. And it’s not even debatable.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:34 pm to Tigers0891
What did you expect from a Kenyan. At least he didn't wear a loin cloth and have a bone in his nose.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:36 pm to BamaCoaster
Kennedy was before my time but the Cuban Missile Crises seemed like a win from what I was taught in school.
Also, from what I hear; he would have been more Republican than Democrat by today's standards. Not that that actually matters when talking about the worst because party does not define incompetence but it's close.
Also, from what I hear; he would have been more Republican than Democrat by today's standards. Not that that actually matters when talking about the worst because party does not define incompetence but it's close.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
Best? I mean, Cuba was a good idea and everything but it’s inconsequential from a strategic geopolitical standpoint.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 8:38 pm to BamaCoaster
quote:
This reply is so dumb
Why is it dumb?
Posted on 8/19/20 at 9:01 pm to BamaCoaster
quote:
ll had much, much worse foreign policies. And it’s not even debatable.
Being a total vajajay is the worst foreign policy and Obama and Carter were the the biggest vajajays ever.
I dont hate Obama but his foreign policy was the worst. I don’t like Trump but he’s dead nuts on with foreign policy.
This post was edited on 8/19/20 at 9:02 pm
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