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Covid-19 cardiological study that BIG10 used for cancellation is fraught with errors

Posted on 8/18/20 at 2:02 pm
Posted by Fortinbras
Member since Jul 2020
32 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 2:02 pm
LINK

Tough scene for the BIG 10. Kevin Warren is an absolute disaster. Any chance they reconsider their decision because of this?
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
27133 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 2:09 pm to
To be fair, the study that shut down the entire world was off by millions so shutting down the Big 10 isn't that big of a deal really.
Posted by Fortinbras
Member since Jul 2020
32 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 2:12 pm to
True. But I would say the difference is that the assumptions in that imperial model were just poor.

In this case, many of the errors are straight up statistical impossibilities.
Posted by NastyTiger
Hammond/Baton Rouge/Lafayette
Member since Jun 2005
11271 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 2:16 pm to
They don't care about that.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
11781 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 2:20 pm to
any study that only looks at 100 people has the possibility of being a statistical anomaly. I can't believe this is the evidence the Big 10 and Pac 12 used to cancel the season.
Posted by TchPowDog
Zachary, LA
Member since Sep 2015
4798 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 2:24 pm to
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any study that only looks at 100 people has the possibility of being a statistical anomaly

Jesus... That's not what the study was based on, dummy. It said the study found that "19 out of 100 blah blah".. Ya know, as in a way to represent percentage.
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I can't believe this is the evidence the Big 10 and Pac 12 used to cancel the season.

Your pathetic and uneducated assumption above is how fake news is spread.
This post was edited on 8/18/20 at 2:25 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108596 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 2:25 pm to
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Jesus... That's not what the study was based on, dummy. It said the study found that "19 out of 100 blah blah".. Ya know, as in a way to represent percentage.
Huh?

The study only had 100 people total

His point is no matter what the results are is worthless basically with that little sample size
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
8754 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 2:26 pm to
Only had a 100 people total, the average age was 50, and most had at least moderate symptoms.
Posted by TchPowDog
Zachary, LA
Member since Sep 2015
4798 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 2:31 pm to
There were 1457 participants in the JAMA study
LINK
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108596 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 2:36 pm to
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There were 1457 participants in the JAMA study
LINK



You linked a completely different unrelated study

Here you go:

LINK

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In this cohort study including 100 patients recently recovered from COVID-19
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38521 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 2:40 pm to
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Kevin Warren


Kev Warren

K Warren

K arren...

Karen

coincidence? I think not.
Posted by sweetwaterbilly
Member since Mar 2017
19588 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 2:42 pm to
Probably already been discussed but I didn't realize Kevin Warren's son plays for Mississippi State. So he's allowing his son to play SEC football but cancelled fall sports all B10 athletes. Bad look, Kev!
Posted by honeybadger07
The Woodlands
Member since Jul 2015
3966 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 3:38 pm to
I believe in the words of the all mighty Fauci..."a study based on just 100 test subjects with no placebo is only anecdotal evidence....oh wait this is evidence to show the virus is bad.....OK never mind i retract that anecdotal part, shut it all down"

did i say that right?
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
25745 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 4:14 pm to
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Jesus... That's not what the study was based on, dummy. It said the study found that "19 out of 100 blah blah".. Ya know, as in a way to represent percentage.


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You linked a completely different unrelated study



Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34163 posts
Posted on 8/18/20 at 4:29 pm to
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Huh?

The study only had 100 people total

His point is no matter what the results are is worthless basically with that little sample size


I think you guys are missing the boat a little bit here. The guy critiquing the study is not so much focused on the overall sample size, but that the researcher appeared to oversample the amount of "unhealthy" people relative the total German population. He used blood pressure as his metric to state that the study had about 50% of people with high blood pressure whereas statistically you would only expect to find 19% of such people relative to the entire German population. Thus there was sampling bias not reflective of the population at large.
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