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As a former poor person, most poor people are useless and do nothing for society
Posted on 8/9/20 at 7:29 pm
Posted on 8/9/20 at 7:29 pm
1. A lot of them don’t pay taxes but take in all the benefits. If they do pay taxes, it's such a small amount it would be less than a government-paid Section 8 housing payment for a single month.
2. They commit most of violent crimes including murder by number and by ratio.
3. They don’t produce anything. They spend more time smoking and drinking beer than thinking about what they could contribute to the world....oh, gotta make the rent money and beer money.
4. They have the highest single motherhood rate.
5. A lot of them don’t take care of their children. Hell, some make babies for tax return purposes.
6. They have the highest alcohol and drug abuse by number and by ratio.
7. A lot of them don’t care about education.
8. Most poor shitheads don't even try to get out of poverty or try to increase their income. They lack work ethic (getting up to work a low wage labor job to live paycheck to paycheck is not working hard to improve ones lot in society if that is all one does).
I got out of the poor living envrionment by failing a lot, busting my arse off, making money the only important focus that matterred, and always pushing to work as much as possible. It took nearly a decade to break through, but I broke through.
I can't fricking stand being around poor losers that don' work to improve their lives.
The shitheads you see in Portland and Seattle and the deadbeat poors that I describe in all of the 8 points above.
2. They commit most of violent crimes including murder by number and by ratio.
3. They don’t produce anything. They spend more time smoking and drinking beer than thinking about what they could contribute to the world....oh, gotta make the rent money and beer money.
4. They have the highest single motherhood rate.
5. A lot of them don’t take care of their children. Hell, some make babies for tax return purposes.
6. They have the highest alcohol and drug abuse by number and by ratio.
7. A lot of them don’t care about education.
8. Most poor shitheads don't even try to get out of poverty or try to increase their income. They lack work ethic (getting up to work a low wage labor job to live paycheck to paycheck is not working hard to improve ones lot in society if that is all one does).
I got out of the poor living envrionment by failing a lot, busting my arse off, making money the only important focus that matterred, and always pushing to work as much as possible. It took nearly a decade to break through, but I broke through.
I can't fricking stand being around poor losers that don' work to improve their lives.
The shitheads you see in Portland and Seattle and the deadbeat poors that I describe in all of the 8 points above.
This post was edited on 8/9/20 at 7:31 pm
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Posted on 8/9/20 at 7:34 pm to uppermidwestbama
The "poor" is always changing. The mobility in America is what makes it the greatest creator of wealth and prosperity the world has ever seen.
Rarely does someone stay in the "poor" class their entire lives.
Rarely does someone stay in the "poor" class their entire lives.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 7:36 pm to uppermidwestbama
You don't think perhaps adding the adjective "lazy" together with poor people wouldn't be better? Surely I don't have to list some examples of how one can become "poor" through little to no fault of their own, followed by the downward spiral and domino effect.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 7:36 pm to uppermidwestbama
As a cop, I deal with poor people daily. It doesn't take long to figure out why they are the way they are.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 7:43 pm to uppermidwestbama
Exactly. Bottom line- if you're poor in the United States and you're over the age of 25, it's your fault. Barring extremely rare mitigating circumstances, you've made horrendous decisions to get (and stay) there. Fact.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 7:50 pm to uppermidwestbama
quote:
I got out of the poor living envrionment by failing a lot, busting my arse off, making money the only important focus that matterred, and always pushing to work as much as possible. It took nearly a decade to break through, but I broke through.
How long ago was this?
Posted on 8/9/20 at 7:53 pm to uppermidwestbama
Some shite head on here yesterday told me I was obligated to pay more taxes to take care of the poor.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:03 pm to uppermidwestbama
Pretty much this. I'm not a libertarian either, but Marxism/socialism is the ultimate loser ideology: you can see it in the way they look, no pride or self-respect, just "gimme"
Posted on 8/9/20 at 9:19 pm to uppermidwestbama
In a real meritocracy, a giant sorting goes on. Over a long enough period of time, on average people will fall into to categories of income based upon work ethic, intelligence, and charisma. Those gifted or hard working enough will on average slightly improve their station, and then their children will then do the same (or reverse course).
Of course anomalies exist, but those are not the rule, and once created begin to conform to the trend of either dropping far or rising far.
Eventually, you encounter situations where the vast majority of the poor are unreliable, lazy, unintelligent, and have no drive or ability. It becomes impossible to find people who can reliably accomplish menial tasks while staying out of jail, off the pipe, or just able to show up on time. You begin to see employers who need people for $10 or $15 a hour jobs say they cannot find good people to work, while poor people say they cannot find jobs.
Enter immigrants.
The best source for reliable labor at the lower levels is people who have grown up in countries which are not long term meritocracies, and instead have not had the opportunity to advance in any way for generations. These are people who in a meritocracy would be your middle class, but instead are dirt poor. They have the drive and ambition to move to a country which provides them opportunity, and are willing to take the menial jobs in order to take a half step up the economic ladder.
TLDR: Poor people of all races in America are that way because 95% of them are worthless human beings, and a statistically larger portion of immigrants from shitholes are not worthless.
Of course anomalies exist, but those are not the rule, and once created begin to conform to the trend of either dropping far or rising far.
Eventually, you encounter situations where the vast majority of the poor are unreliable, lazy, unintelligent, and have no drive or ability. It becomes impossible to find people who can reliably accomplish menial tasks while staying out of jail, off the pipe, or just able to show up on time. You begin to see employers who need people for $10 or $15 a hour jobs say they cannot find good people to work, while poor people say they cannot find jobs.
Enter immigrants.
The best source for reliable labor at the lower levels is people who have grown up in countries which are not long term meritocracies, and instead have not had the opportunity to advance in any way for generations. These are people who in a meritocracy would be your middle class, but instead are dirt poor. They have the drive and ambition to move to a country which provides them opportunity, and are willing to take the menial jobs in order to take a half step up the economic ladder.
TLDR: Poor people of all races in America are that way because 95% of them are worthless human beings, and a statistically larger portion of immigrants from shitholes are not worthless.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 9:22 pm to uppermidwestbama
I understand the point you are making but in and of itself, there is nothing shameful if someone lacks a desire to accumulate material wealth. The problem arises when people feel that they are entitled to have other people subsidize their lifestyle choices.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 9:57 pm to uppermidwestbama
I agree. I was poor and unmotivated once.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 11:45 pm to uppermidwestbama
Jesus said the poor will always be with you.
So sounds like there’s no getting rid of them.
So sounds like there’s no getting rid of them.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 12:01 am to uppermidwestbama
I’m with you 110%.
I hate being stuck in this crappy apartment around rude idiots who play loud music and rev engines all night.
If not for COVID I would be ascending to home ownership next month. After years of hard work and 2 degrees I had finally made it in my career. Guess I’m part of the underclass until further notice because the job market is impossible.
I hate being stuck in this crappy apartment around rude idiots who play loud music and rev engines all night.
If not for COVID I would be ascending to home ownership next month. After years of hard work and 2 degrees I had finally made it in my career. Guess I’m part of the underclass until further notice because the job market is impossible.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 3:42 am to uppermidwestbama
New King James Version
It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.”
Just picking at you. I would point out to you that many people do indeed still read this. And believe it. And please accept my congrats on what you feel is bettering yourself. Please never forget what you went through, how hard it was, and the ones who couldn’t make it.
It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.”
Just picking at you. I would point out to you that many people do indeed still read this. And believe it. And please accept my congrats on what you feel is bettering yourself. Please never forget what you went through, how hard it was, and the ones who couldn’t make it.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 5:49 am to uppermidwestbama
2 Thessalonians 3:10
For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.
For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 8:16 am to uppermidwestbama
Most remain poor for a reason and the reason is not systemic, its personal. Like bad decision making and a general don't give a frick attitude.
Posted on 8/10/20 at 8:16 am to uppermidwestbama
While I can't dispute your personal experience or perspective on things, I think it is somewhat more complex than that.
Most "rich" people were "poor" at one point. Either a broke college student, or just starting out, or what have you. The most successful people are typically smart, but college dropouts who have lean years in building their business where they might be considered "poor".
This notion that class is "fixed" and there isn't a lot of mobility as if broke 20-year olds working at McDonald's don't move into better and better jobs and become middle-class success stories (which is actually quite common) is just rooted in ignorance.
The "permanently" poor usually fall into the category of folks who are dependent on poverty programs, particularly with the explosion of them over the past 50 years (and really almost 100 going back to the New Deal, but these really expanded geometrically under the War on Poverty(tm)).
Anti-poverty programs have locked entire generations of folks into a cycle that is as difficult to break out of as any sort of addiction.
Most "rich" people were "poor" at one point. Either a broke college student, or just starting out, or what have you. The most successful people are typically smart, but college dropouts who have lean years in building their business where they might be considered "poor".
This notion that class is "fixed" and there isn't a lot of mobility as if broke 20-year olds working at McDonald's don't move into better and better jobs and become middle-class success stories (which is actually quite common) is just rooted in ignorance.
The "permanently" poor usually fall into the category of folks who are dependent on poverty programs, particularly with the explosion of them over the past 50 years (and really almost 100 going back to the New Deal, but these really expanded geometrically under the War on Poverty(tm)).
Anti-poverty programs have locked entire generations of folks into a cycle that is as difficult to break out of as any sort of addiction.
This post was edited on 8/10/20 at 8:18 am
Posted on 8/10/20 at 8:17 am to uppermidwestbama
An very AMAZING stat is that the poor in the USA are not really poor.
If you make $34K in one year, that puts you in the top 1% of all wage earners in the WORLD.
That's right folks.
$34K/year = top 1% in the world.
Think about that...
If you make $34K in one year, that puts you in the top 1% of all wage earners in the WORLD.
That's right folks.
$34K/year = top 1% in the world.
Think about that...
Posted on 8/10/20 at 8:26 am to uppermidwestbama
I consider the poor to be people who are working hard, but can’t make ends meet or can just barely make ends meet. With that in mind, it is very hard to be poor in America when there is so much opportunity, abundance, and social assistance programs.
I don’t consider the poor to be the people who are fit enough to stand out on a street intersection all day with a sign, but for some reason won’t get a job. If you can stand in the heat all day, you can fry some bacon in an air conditioned Waffle House. But unfortunately, most want to be out on the street at night, because that’s when they do the things that made them poor or homeless in the first place. Biblical poor are not drunks and direlects who refuse to work.
I don’t consider the poor to be the people who are fit enough to stand out on a street intersection all day with a sign, but for some reason won’t get a job. If you can stand in the heat all day, you can fry some bacon in an air conditioned Waffle House. But unfortunately, most want to be out on the street at night, because that’s when they do the things that made them poor or homeless in the first place. Biblical poor are not drunks and direlects who refuse to work.
This post was edited on 8/10/20 at 8:27 am
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