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What NFL players were worth 2 1st round picks?
Posted on 7/29/20 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 7/29/20 at 2:08 pm
Here's the List since 2000:
Joey Galloway
Keyshawn Johnson
Ricky Williams
Jay Cutler
Khalil Mack
Laremy Tunsil
Jalen Ramsey
Jamal Adams
Joey Galloway
Keyshawn Johnson
Ricky Williams
Jay Cutler
Khalil Mack
Laremy Tunsil
Jalen Ramsey
Jamal Adams
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Posted on 7/29/20 at 2:09 pm to Wolfosaurus
Mack for sure
Posted on 7/29/20 at 2:09 pm to Wolfosaurus
now do how long their GMs lasted after that
Posted on 7/29/20 at 2:11 pm to Wolfosaurus
None of them were. As great as Mack is, I guarantee you that the Bears wouldn't do that over again if they had a mulligan. Teams absolutely crush their ability to acquire cheap talent by going all in on a single player like that.
Posted on 7/29/20 at 2:11 pm to Wolfosaurus
quote:
Joey Galloway
definitely not him
Posted on 7/29/20 at 2:13 pm to Wolfosaurus
quote:
Jay Cutler
Posted on 7/29/20 at 2:13 pm to Wolfosaurus
IMO, the only types of players that would be worth 2 first round picks would be proven franchise QBs. Like if a 27-28 year old Brady/Manning demanded a trade. No other player at any position is worth that. No other player can impact a game more by himself than 2 first round picks, especially when you're talking about getting said 1st round picks at a premium rookie price.
Posted on 7/29/20 at 2:15 pm to Wolfosaurus
Definitely Mack
Posted on 7/29/20 at 2:18 pm to Wolfosaurus
Depends on who was available with the picks and who would've been doing the drafting.
Posted on 7/29/20 at 2:22 pm to Wolfosaurus
When you have to pay a massive contract on top of making the trade it becomes nearly impossible to justify giving up two firsts for anybody other than a franchise QB
Posted on 7/29/20 at 2:22 pm to Wolfosaurus
quote:
Ricky Williams
Is the only one who was twice traded for two first rounders?
Posted on 7/29/20 at 2:24 pm to Wolfosaurus
The two first round picks the Bears gave up for Mack were Josh Jacobs and Damon Arnette. Mack is easily worth that.
Posted on 7/29/20 at 2:46 pm to Wolfosaurus
Not all 1st round picks are created equal. Top 10 has much more value and odds of success than the bottom third of Round 1. Good teams like the Seahawks trading 1st rounders isn't a huge impact, but they are likely picking 20+ bc they make the playoffs almost every year.
If you normalize and it just say that a Rd 1 pick = 16th overall, it's about a 50/50 proposition of success.
If you normalize and it just say that a Rd 1 pick = 16th overall, it's about a 50/50 proposition of success.
Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:18 pm to Wolfosaurus
Mack and Ramsey.
Tunsil is a top 5 right tackle, but right tackles aren’t as valuable as left. Plus they had to sign him to a completely new contract.
Generally speaking, if you are trading 2 1st rounders for a player, he is in the top 3-5 at his position, he has at least 2 years left on a deal that is paying him below market value, and you are a playoff team before you add the guy.
Tunsil is a top 5 right tackle, but right tackles aren’t as valuable as left. Plus they had to sign him to a completely new contract.
Generally speaking, if you are trading 2 1st rounders for a player, he is in the top 3-5 at his position, he has at least 2 years left on a deal that is paying him below market value, and you are a playoff team before you add the guy.
Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:40 pm to Wolfosaurus
quote:
What NFL players were worth 2 1st round picks?
2 1st, a 2nd, and 2 4ths... Julio.
Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:45 pm to Wolfosaurus
Mack is the only one to show that worth.
Posted on 7/29/20 at 3:47 pm to Wolfosaurus
Mack for sure.
Tunsil possibly.
Ramsey maybe.
Tunsil possibly.
Ramsey maybe.
Posted on 7/29/20 at 4:21 pm to Wolfosaurus
I think the three most valuable positions in football right now are
QB
Edge rusher and OT
End of the day. QB matters ten times more than any other position. You basically need 3-4 hall of famers on defense to make up for an average QB(see Ravens and Bucs titles). So unless you can produce Barber, Sapp, Brooks, and Lynch on that side of the field paying two first rounders for a defenders while having a shite QB is a terrible investment.
QB
Edge rusher and OT
End of the day. QB matters ten times more than any other position. You basically need 3-4 hall of famers on defense to make up for an average QB(see Ravens and Bucs titles). So unless you can produce Barber, Sapp, Brooks, and Lynch on that side of the field paying two first rounders for a defenders while having a shite QB is a terrible investment.
Posted on 7/29/20 at 8:19 pm to Wolfosaurus
Ricky Williams wasn’t worth a whole years draft.
I’d say the falcons did ok with giving away most their picks for Julio but no telling where they might be with those picks instead of drafting Julio
I’d say the falcons did ok with giving away most their picks for Julio but no telling where they might be with those picks instead of drafting Julio
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