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re: So why don’t we legalize cannabis?
Posted on 7/22/20 at 11:57 pm to RCDfan1950
Posted on 7/22/20 at 11:57 pm to RCDfan1950
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Would you be okay with your 15 yr. old Daughter smoking weed
Stopped taking you serious right there.
No.
Thats not the question. Alcohol isn't legal for 15 year olds either. I think we can do better than that line at the very least.
Posted on 7/23/20 at 12:27 am to Captain Rumbeard
I mean it already feels pretty damned legal.
Oklahoma's medical laws might as well be recreational. Arkansas' are harder, but all varieties are easily obtainable, if you have a cool doctor or a good friend.
I don't see any harm from full recreational legalization.
Oklahoma's medical laws might as well be recreational. Arkansas' are harder, but all varieties are easily obtainable, if you have a cool doctor or a good friend.
I don't see any harm from full recreational legalization.
Posted on 7/23/20 at 3:24 am to Sal Minio
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Jesus, do all of you people just get high all the time?
Do you also think that people that enjoy a drink just get drunk all the time?
Posted on 7/23/20 at 3:27 am to ImaObserver
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I have a grandson who was started on it in his pre-teen years by the older boys with which he associated. The chain of drug use progression has left him with a destroyed life of dependency and psychotic problems. He is incapable of holding a job as he always ends up crashing into another episode. Is that what you want for the youth of our nation?
My freedoms shouldn't be restricted because your grandson is irresponsible. What other freedoms do you want taken away because some people abuse them? Driving? Gun ownership?
Posted on 7/23/20 at 3:32 am to ImaObserver
It sounds like you want to blame anyone and everyone for your grandson's current situation in life, except your grandson and that his problems run a lot deeper than the fact that he smoked some joints with some friends when he was 15.
I bet he drank his first beer before he smoked that first joint.
I bet he drank his first beer before he smoked that first joint.
Posted on 7/23/20 at 5:18 am to 257WBY
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Trump would win for sure if he’d come out for weed
Actually early in his tenure Trump said he would probably sign off on a medical marijuana bill if Congress and Senate sent one to him. That's where the holdup is
Posted on 7/23/20 at 5:21 am to DavidTheGnome
quote:is this serious
I’d bet money if pot was legalized nationally it would cut the murders significantly.
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Posted on 7/23/20 at 5:24 am to tiggerfan02
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It would take $$$ away from big pharma
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Posted on 7/23/20 at 5:28 am to DavidTheGnome
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I’d bet money if pot was legalized nationally it would cut the murders significantly. Trump has had ample time, and Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush...
Get the government out of what we do with our own damned bodies. I have to question just how small government somebody is that supports cannabis staying scheduled.
Agree 100%, research the hemp industry for why it's not legal.
Posted on 7/23/20 at 5:35 am to DavidTheGnome
Let the states decide. At this point, I don’t have a problem with it, especially for medicinal use, but the ideas that it would reduce violence or that Big Pharma would be negatively affected are silly. Cannabis is not going to replace any significant medications. It is only really effective for a handful of medical issues, and in most of those cases it only helps to alleviate symptoms or side effects.
Posted on 7/23/20 at 6:22 am to llfshoals
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I’ve always found it curious how substances which harm both you and others seem to be how a large percentage of the population try and escape their realities.
Never understood that kind of destructive behavior.
Oh, I'll bet you do.
You just think that watching t.v., overeating, spending too much time on the internet arguing on Facebook or message boards, getting obsessive with Crossfit, or doing one of a half dozen other things that people commonly do are not the same as escaping with weed or alcohol or something along those lines.
They are.
Each has it's specific consequences and you could argue that some are more disruptive than others, but it would be arguable that they're not so much better or worse, just different.
Posted on 7/23/20 at 6:27 am to Celery
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Because of Private Prisons and Pharmaceutical Companies.
This is a complete myth.
First, Private prisons make up a minuscule number of the total prison population.
Second, if any drugs are legalized, the pharmaceutical companies are in the best position to capitalize since they are already established in the FDA pipeline.
No, the ones really pushing to keep marijuana and other drugs illegal are the churches and police unions.
Posted on 7/23/20 at 6:28 am to llfshoals
quote:I thought this thread was about weed. All drugs (both legal and illegal) are processed. They all have side effects and the major one of these is addiction.
I’ve always found it curious how substances which harm both you and others seem to be how a large percentage of the population try and escape their realities.
Never understood that kind of destructive behavi
Weed isn’t a drug. It doesn’t have to be processed or mixed with other man made, artificial toxins.
Did you know your body has what is called, an Endocannabinoid System? As humans (most mammals), we are wired for cannabanoid use (cannabinoid receptors in our brains). Look it up sometime.
There are no hangovers or withdrawals from using cannabis. There’s no weening yourself off of it. There’s no “crash” and it is impossible to overdose in the typical/medical meaning. In other words: NO ONE HAS EVER DIED FROM CANNABIS USE.
To the other poster who said something about “your 15 year old daughter”. I’d much rather find out she tried/used weed than alcohol or drugs. She wouldn’t get “date raped” for one. I would also sit down with her and let her know that her brain is still developing and early use/overuse could have stunting effects.
Why weed is scheduled, is beyond me. From the DEA’s website:
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Schedule I Schedule I drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with no currently accepted medical use and a high potential for abuse.
Some examples of Schedule I drugs are: heroin, lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD), marijuana (cannabis), 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine (ecstasy), methaqualone, and peyote
Schedule II Schedule II drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with a high potential for abuse, with use potentially leading to severe psychological or physical dependence. These drugs are also considered dangerous.
Some examples of Schedule II drugs are: Combination products with less than 15 milligrams of hydrocodone per dosage unit (Vicodin), cocaine, methamphetamine, methadone, hydromorphone (Dilaudid), meperidine (Demerol), oxycodone (OxyContin), fentanyl, Dexedrine, Adderall, and Ritalin
Schedule III Schedule III drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with a moderate to low potential for physical and psychological dependence. Schedule III drugs abuse potential is less than Schedule I and Schedule II drugs but more than Schedule IV.
Some examples of Schedule III drugs are: Products containing less than 90 milligrams of codeine per dosage unit (Tylenol with codeine), ketamine, anabolic steroids, testosterone
Schedule IV Schedule IV drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with a low potential for abuse and low risk of dependence. Some examples of Schedule IV drugs are: Xanax, Soma, Darvon, Darvocet, Valium, Ativan, Talwin, Ambien, Tramadol
Schedule V Schedule V drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with lower potential for abuse than Schedule IV and consist of preparations containing limited quantities of certain narcotics. Schedule V drugs are generally used for antidiarrheal, antitussive, and analgesic purposes.
Some examples of Schedule V drugs are: cough preparations with less than 200 milligrams of codeine or per 100 milliliters (Robitussin AC), Lomotil, Motofen, Lyrica, Parepectolin
If you can’t see the bullshite in the above, then I don’t know what to say. In what world would anyone think weed and heroine are on the same level? It also has Science-based, proven medical benefits. Cannabis should have been removed from the schedule long ago.
Posted on 7/23/20 at 6:41 am to DavidTheGnome
All drugs should be legal on the federal level and each state can decide after that
Posted on 7/23/20 at 6:41 am to Tunasntigers92
quote:Agree.
I don't really see the issue leaving it up to the state.
But if the feds maintain pot is illegal, it really is not being left to the states. Access to banking is the issue.
If something is federally illegal, banks won't touch it with a 10-foot pole. Legally acquired money basically has to be pseudo-laundered to get it into the safety of a bank account. Cannabis shops end up dealing with large aliquots of cash in their own locations which is a significant security concern.
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Posted on 7/23/20 at 6:47 am to NC_Tigah
Far too many Americans hate freedom of choice and hate the actual way our gov should properly function.
Posted on 7/23/20 at 7:26 am to DavidTheGnome
The police make so much money off of it being illegal. The day I was arrested the same county also confiscated 300 lbs of marijuana in a day. That’s only one day! You better believe they are making a killing.
Posted on 7/23/20 at 7:45 am to ImaObserver
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. Is that what you want for the youth of our nation?
Your Pre-teen grandson likely got his reefer illegally. If you move to control it’s distribution with legalization you would then have an established business to ID your grandson at the point of entering said business and again at point of sale. Had this legalization measure been enacted years ago, this could have potentially saved your grandson from buying from an illegal dealer who don’t ID buyers & will sell to anyone willing to spend money, not to mention the hard road he is living now. Continue to love him, but just think about how things might have changed had a legitimate business owner denied him the sale for being underage.
Posted on 7/23/20 at 8:17 am to DavidTheGnome
Because eating people is bad.....oh, wait....
Posted on 7/23/20 at 8:22 am to Caplewood
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young blacks are murdering people at unprecedented rates because they can’t get legal weed
I would venture to guess that the number of young black men killed over illegal weed sales is greater than the number of young black men that are killed by police. Ending at least a portion of the War on Drugs would go a long way to reducing the violence on our streets and helping curtail illegal immigration on our border. It's such an easy solution I'm amazed that the POTUS has done this and taken the victory lap for it. Convinced Trump is waiting until Sept-Oct to do it.
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