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Safe Haven for 401k money pre/post election
Posted on 7/1/20 at 10:54 am
Posted on 7/1/20 at 10:54 am
Regardless of winner of election, where is the best place to have 401k money parked? I am 2 years from retirement with about $1.7m. Currently 80% in Bonds. Thanks in advance!!
Posted on 7/1/20 at 11:00 am to Covid Cracker
I am showing 74% in bonds right now... 2 years from retirement..
After the election... I am going to be looking at preferred stocks and CEF's.... with the target of 6.5% yield. BTW... I don't have 1.7... but have enough if I can achieve that yield
After the election... I am going to be looking at preferred stocks and CEF's.... with the target of 6.5% yield. BTW... I don't have 1.7... but have enough if I can achieve that yield
Posted on 7/1/20 at 11:17 am to Covid Cracker
Bonds and cash. Do you have any volatility exposure?
Posted on 7/1/20 at 3:19 pm to Covid Cracker
I plan on being 50/50 stock bonds during retirement. I think 80% bonds is high but if you can’t stomach volatility then maybe 80% bonds is best for you.
Posted on 7/1/20 at 3:30 pm to Covid Cracker
Any particular bond fund from Vanguard?
Posted on 7/1/20 at 4:54 pm to lsu xman
Thanks for everyone’s responses. Don’t like volatility as I have gotten older. I made my money when I younger in real estate. My 401k was always my security blanket for uncertainty. Boy this feels like uncertainty. I like to sleep at night.
Posted on 7/1/20 at 5:07 pm to Covid Cracker
If you Have enough for you, 80% bonds is fine.
If you want some growth of the portfolio, you might need a little higher % of stocks.
If you want some growth of the portfolio, you might need a little higher % of stocks.
Posted on 7/1/20 at 5:11 pm to lsu xman
I’m in VBTLX
not very much as a percentage but I’ll start moving more into it as I get closer. Also, the targeted retirement funds (2030, 35, 40, etc) have a bond component that increases in percentage as you get closer to the date
both are good options
not very much as a percentage but I’ll start moving more into it as I get closer. Also, the targeted retirement funds (2030, 35, 40, etc) have a bond component that increases in percentage as you get closer to the date
both are good options
Posted on 7/1/20 at 6:41 pm to tigersfan1989
quote:Yeah the bottom line is, it depends on the individual. Age."active" years left etc.
I plan on being 50/50 stock bonds during retirement. I think 80% bonds is high but if you can’t stomach volatility then maybe 80% bonds is best for you.
But it's hard for me to envision I'll be less than 60% stocks going INTO retirement. For a lot of people that's 20-40 years in retirement, that's a long time to have that money do nothing.
But like I said, it's all about how the individual planned his retirement.
OP, you have provided a lot of info, but I personally think it's not enough for someone here to give you sound advice
Posted on 7/1/20 at 7:43 pm to castorinho
I agree. I’m planning on a 3% withdraw rate at a earlier retirement age. Someone planning to retire at 65 might only need 4% withdrawal rate. So that also needs to be taken into consideration too when figuring out allocations.
This post was edited on 7/1/20 at 7:45 pm
Posted on 7/1/20 at 9:13 pm to Covid Cracker
What kind of yields are you getting? With a lot of yields compressed, if rates rise your principal will go down. Tough spot to be in right now.
Posted on 7/2/20 at 6:40 am to Covid Cracker
I’d keep it parked right where it is.
Are you going to sell your house and rental properties too? Those might go down in value after the election too.
The answer to that is -no- because you aren’t focused on the houses value- you are focused on the income the house brings you, or the shelter it provides for your family.
Treat your portfolio the same way. If you are happy with the income you are drawing from your fixed income/equity positions- just stay put.
If you are really worried about the election and results I’d look at that as an asset location problem. Maybe you look at doing some Roth conversions- that will hedge what is likely the biggest risk to a democrat president- higher taxes. Obviously you aren’t going to do 1.7mm at once, but work with your CPA to figure a number that is acceptable to you.
Additionally, I’d make sure your bonds/stocks are quality. Don’t hold more than 10/20% in junk bonds, closed ends, mortgage REITS, or other things where payouts are questionable.
Are you going to sell your house and rental properties too? Those might go down in value after the election too.
The answer to that is -no- because you aren’t focused on the houses value- you are focused on the income the house brings you, or the shelter it provides for your family.
Treat your portfolio the same way. If you are happy with the income you are drawing from your fixed income/equity positions- just stay put.
If you are really worried about the election and results I’d look at that as an asset location problem. Maybe you look at doing some Roth conversions- that will hedge what is likely the biggest risk to a democrat president- higher taxes. Obviously you aren’t going to do 1.7mm at once, but work with your CPA to figure a number that is acceptable to you.
Additionally, I’d make sure your bonds/stocks are quality. Don’t hold more than 10/20% in junk bonds, closed ends, mortgage REITS, or other things where payouts are questionable.
This post was edited on 7/2/20 at 6:42 am
Posted on 7/3/20 at 12:49 pm to Covid Cracker
I personally think 80% bonds is too high, but it depends on your risk tolerance. I’m retiring in one month and I’m 50% equity, 40% bonds, and 10% cash. I figure the cash % gives me time to ride out any downturn.
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