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re: Rayshard Brooks was on Parole due to Covid, cruelty to chidren, obstruction of police, etc

Posted on 6/14/20 at 4:45 pm to
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 6/14/20 at 4:45 pm to
That dude's rap sheet is too complex and overlapping for me to make sense out of it. Which is probably the overall point. But it doesn't look like he was actually sentenced to serve a true 7 year sentence back in 2014, and I don't think he was released due to COVID-19.

I also have no idea why he wanted to run in this case. His history shows he has been given endless chances, deferred or commuted sentences, early release, etc. This encounter should have been SOP to him by now.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Member since Nov 2011
41598 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 4:45 pm to
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The manual states an employee may only use deadly force when:

"1. He or she reasonably believes that the suspect possesses a deadly weapon or any object, device, or instrument which, when used offensively against a person, is likely to or actually does result in serious bodily injury and when he or she reasonably believes that the suspect poses an immediate threat of serious bodily injury to the officer or others; or

2. When there is probable cause to believe that the suspect has committed a crime involving the infliction or threatened infliction of serious physical harm (O.C.G.A. Section 17-4-20) and the employee reasonably believes that the suspect’s escape would create a continuing danger of serious physical harm to any person."


Are tasers deadly?

LINK

quote:

More than 1,000 people in the U.S. have died after police stunned them with Tasers, and the stun gun was ruled to be a cause or contributing factor in 153 of those deaths, a Reuters examination found.
This post was edited on 6/14/20 at 4:46 pm
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 4:45 pm to
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and attempt to make an arrest that happens to be illegal,


What arrest was illegal that you speak of?
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 4:46 pm to
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The DA in Atlanta has said he is going to consider bringing criminal charges, even murder, against the police officer who shot.


Link?
Posted by GEAUXmedic
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Posted on 6/14/20 at 4:47 pm to
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But it doesn't look like he was actually sentenced to serve a true 7 year sentence back in 2014, and I don't think he was released due to COVID-19.


Actually, if you click the link for the false imprisonment case, which was the first 7 year charge, along with another 7 and a 5 which ran concurrently, it shows he was assigned a new public defender on January 27th, 2020. He was in fact in jail at this time, 6 years after he was sentenced.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 4:48 pm to
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has not committed a crime?


I can list several crimes your boy Brooks committed.

You’re a fricking idiot

Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63260 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 4:51 pm to
I'm not saying I read it all right, but the one I clicked on showed 7 years, 1 year imprisoned, 6 years probation, all the other sentences served concurrently.

Maybe he had multiple false imprisonment charges in the list?

Also, he was released on parole in late January of this year. Were people being released for covid that early?
Posted by kfont28
Parts Unknown
Member since Aug 2004
968 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 4:51 pm to
Does this count as a death due to Covid? Georgia about to get a stay at home order.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36905 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 4:52 pm to
So is this getting marked up as a covid death or racist?

I can't imagine the media right now trying to figure out how to capitalize on this.

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Posted by kfont28 online on 6/14/20 at 4:51 pm to GEAUXmedic
Does this count as a death due to Covid? Georgia about to get a stay at home order.


Lol.
This post was edited on 6/14/20 at 4:53 pm
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
18105 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 4:52 pm to
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so if you're a cop, and attempt to make an arrest that happens to be illegal,

What was illegal about this arrest? Dude was passed out drunk in a drive through lane.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 4:53 pm to
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I can't imagine the media right now trying to figure out how to capitalize on this.



Some woman was just on Fox saying the cops should have had a conversation with him and used a de escalation tactic.

She obviously didn’t watch the body camera footage
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278849 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 5:01 pm to
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was a taser. You can shoot someone to death for firing a taser at you? I'm not sure that is right.


If the officer thought a taser was deadly, he wouldn’t have chased buddy. That’s for damn sure
Posted by im4LSU
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2004
32141 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 5:01 pm to
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But as for whether any of that helps determine if it was a good shoot or not? Nah, none of that is relevant.


Agreed.

Im just asking you this because your my boy and ive wondered this... Do you think it affects the cop's mindset going into the encounter say if he pulls the suspects sheet when arriving on the scene (say via license plate), or maybe he recognizes the suspect and knows his violent history? Like I have a hard time thinking that I would proceed the same way if I KNEW the suspect had a long history of being violent as opposed to not knowing. I ask myself the same question about the Floyd thing. I preface this by saying that cop that killed Floyd was absolutely, unequivocally wrong and should be behind bars. BUT, its come out that they knew each other and that Floyd had a violent history. Like, didn't he hold a gun to some woman's head while she was robbed or some shite?? That cop that was arresting him KNEW him and his violent past and I have a hard time thinking that he didnt go into that thinking he was going to have to use some extra force. Not saying that is the right way to go about it but damn.... thats an impossible spot.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
34983 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 5:09 pm to
Oh I would absolutely approach a situation differently if I knew I was going to be interacting with a violent criminal.

I think that's good information to know, honestly.

It's a tough spot because it asks the cop to be wary of those things without allowing it to change their behavior for the worse.

This post was edited on 6/14/20 at 5:10 pm
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 5:17 pm to
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If the officer thought a taser was deadly, he wouldn’t have chased buddy. That’s for damn sure



you've never seen a cop chase after someone with a gun?
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112784 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 5:18 pm to
When are we marching?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
55007 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 5:20 pm to
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Some woman was just on Fox saying the cops should have had a conversation with him and used a de escalation tactic.

She obviously didn’t watch the body camera footage



Yep. Every part of that exchange was fine until he realized he was going back to jail. Then, he flipped his shite.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
22383 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 5:23 pm to
All I can say after witnessing this video for the first time, and w/o having read any posts on this subject, anyone who defends this victim’s actions and his eventual death, is immediately placed on my list to ignore.

No discussion necessary.
Posted by im4LSU
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2004
32141 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 5:23 pm to
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It's a tough spot because it asks the cop to be wary of those things without allowing it to change their behavior for the worse.


Right! How the frick is someone supposed to do that!? I know I couldnt.

frick that job
Posted by lsuson
Metairie
Member since Oct 2013
12264 posts
Posted on 6/14/20 at 5:25 pm to
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It was a taser. You can shoot someone to death for firing a taser at you? I'm not sure that is right


If I’m a cop and a criminal tries to grab my taser and could stun me allowing him to grab my gun then yes I’m definitely shooting.
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