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re: Diving deeper on Standard Lithium?

Posted on 1/16/24 at 8:44 pm to
Posted by Beerinthepocket
Dallas
Member since May 2011
856 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 8:44 pm to
This explains why they have kept saying 1H 2024 for the FID. I thought that seemed like an unnecessarily long time between completion of the DFS/FEED and FID, but it makes sense now knowing it’s dependent the royalty determination.
Posted by Ron Cheramie
The Cajun Hedgehog
Member since Aug 2016
5152 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 8:59 am to
There’s no situation where a stock drops
So low that you actually owe money, correct?

Will have to bring that up next time the wife asks how that lithium stock is doing
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27381 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 10:52 am to
quote:

There’s no situation where a stock drops
So low that you actually owe money, correct?


Since I hold shares, I'm sure there's a way.
Posted by ev247
Member since Nov 2022
322 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 11:01 am to
Somebody bring Mike his notes
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 12:14 pm
Posted by CarbonAce
Member since Apr 2021
105 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 12:32 pm to
See the Albemarle news? Cutting staff pausing expansion due to lithium prices
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
3154 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 12:42 pm to
Haha - bad timing for a freeze to keep me out of the office.

There really wasn't much more interesting to report though.

They're still trying to avoid dilution as much as possible for Phase 1 capital. Duh.

Prepays for offtake agreements are still apparently a strong possibility even at current prices. Couldn't get her to talk about partnerships much at all.

They're seeking a particular government loan that could be as much as $150 million at a 3-4% interest rate which would be great.

Shelf offering is being dipped into slowly to fund day-to-day ops and potentially more SWA/ETX engineering. Obviously we saw the start of that with the last filing.
Posted by CecilShortsHisPants
One Foty Fo uh uh Magnolia Screet
Member since Oct 2012
2875 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 1:15 pm to
Just sold the rest of my shares at a huge loss. What a shitty investment
Posted by LSUSLU106
Member since Mar 2015
534 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 1:31 pm to
What is your plan to do with your shares Mike and Smack. You guys giving up and cutting loss?
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 1:32 pm
Posted by Wraytex
San Antonio - Gonzales
Member since Jun 2020
2020 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

Shelf offering is being dipped into slowly to fund day-to-day ops



Wasn’t it a few weeks ago they were still making executive hires?
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
3154 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:19 pm to
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What is your plan to do with your shares Mike and Smack. You guys giving up and cutting loss?


I'm going to wait for the earnings call, just in case. I do not expect Mintak to say anything that is going to greatly change my opinion, though. I'll start selling some after the earnings call. Not going to totally exit, but will reduce by a good amount with the intent to buy back in once we are closer to an actual decision on a project.

Still like the company, but much more risk now with these low lithium prices. Have to adjust accordingly, and also try to take the 'opportunity' to improve my cost basis by buying back in later.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27381 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 6:58 pm to
quote:

What is your plan to do with your shares Mike and Smack. You guys giving up and cutting loss?


Holding.
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4135 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 7:02 pm to



Just don’t let pride of ownership cause you to go out like the “brave” knight.
Posted by Puffoluffagus
Savannah, GA
Member since Feb 2009
6108 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 7:13 pm to
I sold half my holdings today and put them elsewhere. I'll reconsider buying back in closer to April if that's closer to when the FID and potential royalty gets determined.

I can't forsee sli making a significant jump in the interim as assumingly there won't be any positive PR to be had unless they announce the federal grant. Additionally, given the market is tepid on lithium right now. So if anything I wouldn't be surprised if there's a further drop between now and April and possibly I'll buy back in lower than what I sold. But we'll see.
Posted by ev247
Member since Nov 2022
322 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 7:15 pm to
Interesting that she wouldn't talk partnerships after being willing to throw out "household name" teasers before. Hm
Glad to hear about the possible gov loan though.

I don't plan to sell any until at least April. I may be crazy but I like the coincidence that they expect a royalty decision in April right after the grant decision in March. Also can't imagine how a partnership could happen until you know if your royalty rate is 2% or 12%. Who would agree to anything while that's unknown?

Either way, will royalty/grant/partnership/FID news in Q2 excite the market enough to get us back to a safe (far above $1) share price while we wait out construction until 2026?
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
3154 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 7:15 am to
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Either way, will royalty/grant/partnership/FID news in Q2 excite the market enough to get us back to a safe (far above $1) share price while we wait out construction until 2026?



I think that's a safe bet.

The biggest risk right now is not the technology or the long term demand, it's simply the current lithium price and the fact that SLI is pre-revenue and trying to fund their first projects.

If SLI comes through with enough funding to get them through the lithium rough patch and start up construction, I think that eliminates a ton of risk and the stock price/valuation will settle in nicely while we wait. Their problem is getting the cash to keep going - once they've got the cash, via partnership, loan, grant, dilution whatever - they are good.

So yeh, the big risk is just when does that happen. They have so many institutional investors right now that they'll have to do an RS to avoid delist if they get below $1. Can they hold $1 til decisions are made? Maybe. Can they negotiate offtake agreements with lithium prices this low? Maybe. Can they get someone to partner up with them? Maybe.

Whole bunch of maybes.

Still like the play and honestly wish I could start buying now and just average down over the next few months.

Unfortunately, I'm way overleveraged and with what I consider the increased risk, I have to start decreasing this position soon.
Posted by Wraytex
San Antonio - Gonzales
Member since Jun 2020
2020 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 8:08 am to
There's been too many let downs from SLI, the biggest to me being how innovative they were supposed to be, only to use Koch's tech for the DFS. My gut says Mintak put all his eggs into the partnership/ buyout basket and he failed to deliver the goods. I don't see this staying above 1$ barring any partnership or other positive funding news. When this stock was first pitched here, they were protected by patents on their innovative Lithium DLE, which we now know isn't as wide a moat as was pitched at the time. I don't see the ship righting any time soon and would love to see Mintak tossed overboard so I can short the company he washes up at.
Posted by Wraytex
San Antonio - Gonzales
Member since Jun 2020
2020 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 8:10 am to
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Unfortunately, I'm way over leveraged and with what I consider the increased risk, I have to start decreasing this position soon.


Ditto, and going back to Mintak, de risking has been his favorite word even while his leadership has created the opposite. Getting rid of him would salve my wounds for awhile.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19775 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 10:35 am to
SLI is first in DLE. However, there are many who don't really believe the proofs of concept from three years ago.

Again, the biggest thing they can do is to produce finished lithium even if they have to stockpile it until the royalties are settled. Then have a weekly or monthly audit of the amount and quality produced by an independent expert.

That would put more than yak yak into the PR equation.
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
Member since Nov 2015
17803 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 3:34 pm to
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Still like the play and honestly wish I could start buying now and just average down over the next few months.

Unfortunately, I'm way overleveraged and with what I consider the increased risk, I have to start decreasing this position soon.

sucks being in this boat watching it drop another 10% in a single day today. 5% & 10% drops daily. Can’t even average down like you said or I’m just piling on more risk


my position is so large that all I could do was decrease it by 25%. If I hadn’t already been so overleveraged I’d definitely make a speculation play at these prices. Can’t do anything but pray for a rebound now though
Posted by GrizzlyAlloy
Member since Aug 2020
1687 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 3:55 pm to
I thought I screwed up selling at $9.25. I really screwed up buying some back at the $7 Koch price. I've followed this thread since page 1, but I might forget about SLI and check my ROTH when I retire in 30 years.
This post was edited on 1/18/24 at 3:57 pm
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