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re: Diving deeper on Standard Lithium?

Posted on 6/27/23 at 10:41 am to
Posted by Elusiveporpi
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Posted on 6/27/23 at 10:41 am to
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Mine has gone up. Getting 20% now.


Same. I'm at 20% as well.

Hopefully the long wait for the DSF is due to getting all the SLI swag bags ready for the big announcement.
Posted by itsbigmikey
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Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 6/27/23 at 12:01 pm to
Any Doomberg substack subscribers out there? Their most recent piece is about Lithium/DLE industry. Link to Article

Some Excerpts:

"Public and private money is flooding into the field of direct lithium extraction (DLE), and like all investment bubbles, separating the potential winners from the hucksters can be challenging. What are investors to make of this unfolding mania? Are breakthroughs truly on the horizon? If so, who will likely be the main beneficiaries? Let’s develop a framework of analysis together."

"When a field explodes in popularity like this, it is natural that investors fear missing out on the next big thing, and there is no shortage of entrepreneurs looking to raise capital in the DLE space. A recent article by Reuters gives a comprehensive list of companies participating in the race to produce lithium. From startups to established players, there are more than two dozen options to consider in the burgeoning catalog. One needs a method for sifting through and prioritizing the myriad opportunities."

"Our pessimism arises from a fundamental truism of mining technology breakthroughs: embedded within their very business plans are the seeds of their economic demise. The more successful the technology, the quicker the commodity glut forms, and all commodity producers are nothing more than price takers with elevated fixed costs. The development of horizontal drilling, and the shale boom that followed, incinerated copious amounts of industry capital. This should serve as a sobering and relevant historical precedent.
More interesting to us would be the pinch points. In this context, the developers of the enabling technologies—the filters, membranes, and other consumables that allow lithium to be processed—ought to capture most of the value generated. Since promoters will depend on these inventions to demonstrate growth, they will be relatively price agnostic in their quest to acquire them. Continuing with our shale analogy, providers of the accessory services and materials that enabled horizontal drilling to succeed in the field faired far better across the entirety of the boom-bust cycle."

I'd post more but don't want to just regurgitate the whole article. Figured it was relevant to post regardless. I'm not very knowledgeable in this industry whatsoever so won't provide any personal commentary but hopefully this has some utility. And FWIW I've enjoyed the Doomberg subscription if anyone cares. Their analysis on commodities, industry, policy, etc. is thought provoking
This post was edited on 6/27/23 at 1:48 pm
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 6/27/23 at 2:02 pm to
Getting 19.x% yesterday. Other stocks that are subject to FPL have interest rates of below 1%.
Posted by Elusiveporpi
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Posted on 6/27/23 at 2:48 pm to

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A recent article by Reuters



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Compass Minerals International (CMP.N):

The company, whose largest shareholder is Koch Industries, licensed EnergySource's DLE technology to filter lithium from Utah's Great Salt Lake starting in 2025 for Ford and LG Energy (373220.KS).

Standard Lithium (SLI.V):

Standard plans to filter lithium from the brine wastewater of a Lanxess (LXSG.DE) bromine facility in Arkansas. That wastewater is currently reinjected into the Smackover Formation, which stretches from Florida to Texas. Standard, which counts Koch as its largest shareholder, has not said when it could reach commercial production.
Posted by LChama
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 6/27/23 at 4:48 pm to
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I'm at 20% as well.


So isnt this a sign that these guys are really banking on bad news for SLI?
Posted by Beerinthepocket
Dallas
Member since May 2011
856 posts
Posted on 6/27/23 at 7:15 pm to
So what I’m taking from this is Schwab is screwing me out of some interest!
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
50732 posts
Posted on 6/27/23 at 8:10 pm to
I can't loan mine out through my brokerage. I should be pissed about this.

btw-I haven't looked the past couple days but on Friday calls vastly outnumbered puts on SLI. Take from that what you may.
Posted by Elusiveporpi
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Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:10 am to
quote:

quote:
I'm at 20% as well.


So isnt this a sign that these guys are really banking on bad news for SLI?


Thats what it looks like. There are also lots of pro-SLI as well though. All of the institutional investors and of course all of the Money Board.
Posted by lighter345
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:38 am to
Don’t love that
Posted by lighter345
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Posted on 6/28/23 at 9:09 pm to
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Posted by lighter345
Member since Jan 2009
11869 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 9:11 pm to
Exxon Agrees to develop more than 6,100 lithium-rich acres in Arkansas with Tetra Technologies Inc

Noteworthy quote

quote:

Exxon would need to chose at least one direct lithium extraction (DLE) technology to filter the metal from the Arkansas brine, although such technologies are largely unproven at commercial scale. Reuters reported earlier this month that

Exxon has held talks with International Battery Metals (IBAT.CD) and EnergySource Minerals about licensing DLE technology. Tetra said in November it has been investigating various DLE technologies, but had not signed any agreements.

Tetra had previously agreed to lease more than 27,000 acres in Arkansas to Standard Lithium (SLI.V) to produce lithium. Standard has started preliminary work on development of that project.
Posted by jimjackandjose
Member since Jun 2011
6514 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 9:37 pm to
The proximity to SLI screams partnership with their DLE technologies

But I could be way wrong.

An agreement with @XOM would balloon this stock. It basically validates the technology
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
50732 posts
Posted on 6/28/23 at 11:18 pm to
quote:

An agreement with @XOM would balloon this stock. It basically validates the technology



It moved...
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4615 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 6:20 am to
One has to wonder why SLI wouldn’t even be mentioned in consideration.

They’re literally next door to each other and didn’t TTI have a partnership or something with SLI before?
Posted by jimjackandjose
Member since Jun 2011
6514 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 6:35 am to
It is very difficult to confirm who a company like exxon has been talking to. This stuff has all sorts of project code names and serious lawyers all over it
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
3228 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 10:32 am to
Hmm....low volume, but somebody is buying today.
Posted by Elusiveporpi
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Posted on 6/29/23 at 12:28 pm to
Saw someone bought 26,000 shares this morning. and quite a few 2-3,000 buys.
Posted by Wraytex
San Antonio - Gonzales
Member since Jun 2020
2059 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 12:41 pm to
Will be swapping out a company computershare position for more SLI next week.
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
6278 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 12:42 pm to
I seem to have forgotten where I can look at the quantitative purchases.

Point me in a direction?
Posted by Elusiveporpi
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Posted on 6/29/23 at 1:31 pm to
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I seem to have forgotten where I can look at the quantitative purchases.

Point me in a direction?


You are the one that showed me where to find it 2 years ago.!

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