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re: Why does Hydroxychloroquine get so much opposition?
Posted on 5/24/20 at 10:24 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
Posted on 5/24/20 at 10:24 am to Mid Iowa Tiger
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The opioid crisis in America should be laid right at the feet of Obama care if anyone was honest.
There are a lot of metrics in Obama care around pain and pain management that incentivized doctors to prescribe pain meds for things they did not before O care became law.
dude the opiate crisis predates obamacare by about a decade
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Posted on 5/24/20 at 10:29 am to supatigah
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You don’t need 300 million people taking the drug, that is ridiculous, kids, teens, physical ineligibles (those that can’t take it) are eliminated right off the bat. 90million Americans are 23 and under.
there is NO WAY there is an approved treatment program where you discard a group based on age discrimination. it just won't happen
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The second wave will “start” around September and by early October the MSM screaming about the risks and the election will be at a fever pitch.
i don't disagree
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All we would need is enough people in the 25 to 65 demo that are social, active, and working to take it to slow down the spread rate numbers that would feed the hysteria.
any new spread will become front page news. did you miss their insanity over the Wisconsin election? when it didn't really even present a threat and no real spread occurred? you'd think people were lined up and shot for voting with how they portrayed the story
Posted on 5/24/20 at 10:49 am to TigerDoc
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As additional studies come out that show it doesn't seem to be showing that it helps people with COVID and seems to actually harm them. This is self-correcting feature that exists in medicine. We try things to see if they work, and as we do, we try to adjust our practice based on the evidence.
So, we all know this is a lie, yet you say it anyway. And, we're supposed to take your opinion seriously?
There has not been a study showing that the drug cocktail harms those that take it.
Posted on 5/24/20 at 10:52 am to TulaneFan
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Hydroxychloroquine: *Actually works
Very large study (biggest one yet) indicating that it not only doesn’t work but that it causes harm. That would be a reason to oppose.
No placebo controlled trial but is a much bigger study and equivalent level evidence to any positive study.
This post was edited on 5/24/20 at 10:53 am
Posted on 5/24/20 at 10:54 am to moneyg
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There has not been a study showing that the drug cocktail harms those that take it.
Yes there has
From placebo worse out comes in HCq alone and then increasingly worse with combo
Posted on 5/24/20 at 12:10 pm to TulaneFan
Studies show it doesn’t make a difference but the doctors I’ve spoken to swear if used early on the results prove to be very positive.
Posted on 5/24/20 at 12:13 pm to rich4pres
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Because they don't want this to end. At least until the election.
And because HCL costs about $.69 and Remdesivir costs about $1000.00. Look who owns stock in and is pushing Remdesivir. Follow the money.
Posted on 5/24/20 at 12:15 pm to Adam Banks
quote:All hospitalized patients. Now find one looking at non hospitalized patients.
Yes there has
From placebo worse out comes in HCq alone and then increasingly worse with combo
Posted on 5/24/20 at 12:22 pm to Diamondawg
quote:BFIV is the correct answer
Because they don't want this to end. At least until the election.
Gilead is heavily invested by SOROS and Gates (remdesivir)
This post was edited on 5/24/20 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 5/24/20 at 12:25 pm to HongKongTiger
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Studies show it doesn’t make a difference but the doctors I’ve spoken to swear if used early on the results prove to be very positive.
The same could be said of remdesivir.
Posted on 5/24/20 at 12:52 pm to Adam Banks
Hcq is so ineffective and harmful India is expanding their use of it for prophylaxis
Posted on 5/24/20 at 1:44 pm to Tiguar
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Hcq is so ineffective and harmful India is expanding their use of it for prophylaxis
Would like to see the evidence.
Posted on 5/24/20 at 1:45 pm to Adam Banks
same, I’ve been trying to find their studies but I don’t think they’re gonna publish them
Posted on 5/24/20 at 1:52 pm to TulaneFan
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Hydroxychloroquine: *Actually works
Media:
NO!!! Why?
1) It works.
2) It's cheap.
3) So much for $Million Dollar patents and $Billion Dollar vaccines.
4) Trump touted HCQ (God forbid he could be right about something).
5) Trump haters want the shutdown to last until the economy is destroyed, thereby "ensuring" his defeat.
That's pretty much what I have off the top of my head.
Posted on 5/24/20 at 2:20 pm to Tiguar
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Hcq is so ineffective and harmful India is expanding their use of it for prophylaxis
They're failing to suppress the infection in a country of almost 1.4 billion & have now climbed into top 10 in reported infections and climbing. As authoritarian as Modi is, he doesn't have the means to do what Xi did. He's going to try anything with a glimmer of hope.
Posted on 5/24/20 at 2:34 pm to TigerDoc
They found it effective in a smaller cohort and expanded use as a result. It’s not just throwing shite against a wall.
Posted on 5/24/20 at 2:50 pm to TulaneFan
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Hydroxychloroquine: *Actually works
Because as testing of this progresses, they are finding it doesn’t work just as much as it does. That’s why the tests are so important.
Posted on 5/24/20 at 2:59 pm to Tiguar
I don't believe they have nothing to base this on, but if they're not publishing the results, we shouldn't assume this isn't either a high-stakes gamble or populists straight flim-flamming their publics with cheap treatments with street buzz even as more effective interventions to control the pandemic fail or aren't even tried. Brazil has the second highest number of cases in the world & Bolsonaro has had 2 health ministers resign over his management of this & he's subsequently had a general set up HCQ as an intervention for mild HCQ. Give the people what they want...
This post was edited on 5/24/20 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 5/24/20 at 3:05 pm to TigerDoc
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As authoritarian as Modi is, he doesn't have the means to do what Xi did. He's going to try anything with a glimmer of hope.
India has a different dynamic than other nations. The caste system is still a consideration there. In other words, those in the lower castes will probably not have meds readily available to them, whereas the upper castes are going to get medication. Subsequently, their #’s may skyrocket, but they may not be overly concerned, at least, not as long as the upper caste has medication available to them (Hydroxycholoquine).
Posted on 5/24/20 at 3:15 pm to TigerDoc
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As additional studies come out that show it doesn't seem to be showing that it helps people with COVID and seems to actually harm them. This is self-correcting feature that exists in medicine. We try things to see if they work, and as we do, we try to adjust our practice based on the evidence.
This is exactly what the President’s doctor’s statement declared (other than “it doesn’t show much promise and seems to harm”).
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In consultation with our inter-agency partners and subject matter experts around the country, I continue to monitor the myriad studies investigating potential COVID-19 therapies, and I anticipate employing the same shared medical decision making based on the evidence at hand in the future
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