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Why does Hydroxychloroquine get so much opposition?

Posted on 5/24/20 at 4:22 am
Posted by TulaneFan
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2008
14074 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 4:22 am
Media: “Stay strong, we’re in this together, we will beat Covid19”

Hydroxychloroquine: *Actually works

Media:

Posted by rich4pres
Knoxville
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 5/24/20 at 4:29 am to
Because they don't want this to end. At least until the election.
Posted by LuckyTiger
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45538 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 4:37 am to

Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
8559 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 4:45 am to
It is cheap and easy to produce. The jihad against this is strictly political and they have gone all in to not let Trump have a win of any kind.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
49135 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 4:55 am to
OMB
Posted by KLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
10356 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 5:39 am to
Because Trump brought it up at a press conference during the height of the pandemic and touted it as a possible treatment.

Anything Trump says or does the mainstream media will take the opposite stance and turn it into a political issue. Also, the same deep state actors who are running the main stream media also run the big pharmaceutical companies. You can’t made any money on Hydroxycloroquine so therefor it has to be discredited!

Basically that’s it.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 5/24/20 at 6:12 am to
Big pharma is about the benjamins not helping people. Look how they fight hemp and MJ medical uses.

Posted by mightyMick
Member since Aug 2018
3067 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 6:19 am to
IMO, it's part big pharma and part OMB. Either way, it shows that the dims and the msm couldn't care less about saving lives and rebuilding the economy. Hydroxychloroquine should be reported as outstanding and very encouraging news, which would go a long way to calming over hyped fear.
Posted by WylieTiger
Member since Nov 2006
13141 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 6:23 am to
It's not profitable for those who have their money invested in Gilead, Moderna, etc.
Posted by tiger1014
Member since Jan 2011
12518 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 6:49 am to
It’s stupid on both sides

Trump is doubling down that it works. All of the studies out there recently have said it doesn’t.

Dems are out there saying it’s a dangerous drug. As a doctor, I’ve prescribed it hundreds of times without batting and eyelash. The only real monitoring required is a yearly eye exam as there is a risk of retinal deposits.

So both sides are pretty ridiculous
Posted by SOKAL
Member since May 2018
4124 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 6:59 am to
Actually Tiger1014, we have known basically from the beginning that it is usually not effective when a person is very unhealthy to begin with and the treatment begins when the patient is at death's door.


So what do "we" do?

We give it patients that fit that exact description and declare the drug doesn't work.

Or, we make it even worse and we don't give the complete cocktail.

And the thing is, we knew that is what some of these "experts" were going to do before they did it.
Posted by IslandBuckeye
Boca Chica, Panama
Member since Apr 2018
10067 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 7:04 am to
quote:

All of the studies out there recently have said it doesn’t.



Wrong. Have you read any studies at all?

P.S. What does "recently" have to do with anything?

Note: this is not to say it works every time with every case, but it has shown efficacy outside of critical care patients ie. vented patients.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 7:17 am to
quote:

Big pharma is about the benjamins not helping people. Look how they fight hemp and MJ medical uses.


Look at the deaths from oxycontin
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425100 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 7:18 am to
Trump supports it and there is no way to show it works, and those who oppose Trump are smart enough to know there is no way to get a real study done in time before this all passes so even if Trump is right, it will be a dead story by the time he has the proof.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 7:19 am to
quote:

All of the studies out there recently have said it doesn’t.

That is a lie.

It is the MSM/Dem narrative, but it is a lie.
Posted by PeteRose
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Member since Aug 2014
16972 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 7:21 am to
Why did faucet say that we need at least a year of data with Hydroxychloroquine but then recommended Remdesivir just like that?
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38488 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 7:24 am to
You know if Trump cured cancer and what not..,
Posted by IslandBuckeye
Boca Chica, Panama
Member since Apr 2018
10067 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 7:27 am to
quote:

recommended Remdesivir just like that?




I have read or reviewed the published articles for remdesivir, they are not that promising, particularly for critical patients. The article that was used to promote it had 8 deaths versus 11 for placebo.

Our hospital received 60 doses and the EUSA literature states it should be used for critical cases. Glad to have it but not confident it will help significantly in that patient population. To be fair HCQ will not help this demographic either. Too far gone, too many comorbidities.
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17716 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 7:37 am to
They want this fear to last as long as possible, at least until November.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425100 posts
Posted on 5/24/20 at 7:41 am to
quote:

To be fair HCQ will not help this demographic either. Too far gone, too many comorbidities.

i was going to ask

it seems these studies are far too concerned with the meds as hail mary cures for people who would likely be on death's door after treatment if the meds worked

i've always been careful not to believe the HCQ hype but it seems people are promoting it more as a prophylactic measure or a way to combat the disease early to prevent it from being critical, like tamiflu. once you're outside of that window, it won't do nearly as much
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