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re: Should education be compulsory?

Posted on 5/14/20 at 10:21 pm to
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
7745 posts
Posted on 5/14/20 at 10:21 pm to
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You embrace libertarianism because in your mind government gives things to people that don't look like you who don't deserve it.


I’ve never believed government gives anything to anyone. Quite the opposite actually. Everything government does requires force and taking from another.
This post was edited on 5/14/20 at 10:22 pm
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
47993 posts
Posted on 5/14/20 at 10:21 pm to
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schools teach people how to memorize, not how to think.


Then schools aren't "indoctrinating" kids?
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9144 posts
Posted on 5/14/20 at 10:22 pm to
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The issue is we/you need a government and society of by and for your interests in a community.


Here's the problem; Who's to determine those interests?

You seem to think politicians and bureaucrats are the ones who should make those decisions, not the individuals in a community. Seems as if you think individuals can't make rational decisions on their own, so we need government to centrally plan things, like education.

Well, if you have so little faith in those individuals, how can it be possible you have so much faith in the government "leaders" they elect?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263487 posts
Posted on 5/14/20 at 10:22 pm to
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You embrace libertarianism because in your mind government gives things to people that don't look like you who don't deserve it.


This is retarded.

Collectivism is a philosophy of the weak.
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39157 posts
Posted on 5/14/20 at 10:24 pm to
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Collectivism is a philosophy of the weak.


Oh look roger dropped in and parroted his line. Same shite over and over again, typical midwit lolbert nonsense
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
7745 posts
Posted on 5/14/20 at 10:25 pm to
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This is retarded. Collectivism is a philosophy of the weak.


I think in some convoluted way, he was trying to call me a racist, but I didn’t really follow much of anything he said because it made no sense whatsoever.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18857 posts
Posted on 5/14/20 at 10:26 pm to
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The issue is we/you need a government and society of by and for your interests in a community.



the problem is the institution. the government should only be there to stop other people from infringing upon our rights, that's it. point blank.

large institutions are only morally good when the people who run them are morally good; they cannot be relied upon to have your interest in mind.
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
7745 posts
Posted on 5/14/20 at 10:27 pm to
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It's all pretty much genetically determined how you are going to do in school and life.


bullshite. Those are lies to keep people dependent on government and from achieving their potential.
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18657 posts
Posted on 5/14/20 at 10:29 pm to
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Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
22566 posts
Posted on 5/14/20 at 10:31 pm to
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Yes, because education in America is totally a binary choice between learning reading, writing, and arithmetic... or not learning anything at all. Definitely don't pay attention to what our children are learning. Daddy Gubment gonna take care of the kids, don't question it.


Lol. I have no kids and I don't give one shite about other people's kids. If you don't want your children to be indoctrinated, brainwashed or turned into little Marxist commies, then parents need to pay due diligence to what they are learning in school.
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18657 posts
Posted on 5/14/20 at 10:32 pm to
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Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
7745 posts
Posted on 5/14/20 at 10:33 pm to
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You trumpet that bull shite which essentially disarms you from seeing/understanding/defending your real natural and obvious group/community interests.


Anything can be done in the name of group interests, even if it harms you and your family. That’s why there are only individual rights, not collective rights. Rights don’t come in bunches, they come naturally to all of us. Think for yourself, don’t blindly go along with “what’s good for society”.
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39157 posts
Posted on 5/14/20 at 10:33 pm to
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bullshite. Those are lies to keep people dependent on government and from achieving their potential


Oh for sure bro that’s why the wheel hadn’t been invented yet in Africa when the first Europeans visited in the 19th century. Big government got in the way!
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18857 posts
Posted on 5/14/20 at 10:35 pm to
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You can't really teach people how to think. It's all pretty much genetically determined how you are going to do in school and life.



that's complete and utter BS. increasing numbers of people grow up in dysfunctional families that cause emotionally related developmental issues both academically and functionally.

some people are put under more academic rigor with higher expectations and more support from family, etc.

i believe everyone is capable of thinking clearly and honestly, there are too many examples of people completely changing their perspectives on life.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
22566 posts
Posted on 5/14/20 at 10:37 pm to
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Conservatism 101


Nah. I pay my property taxes, that's where my interest in the education of other people's children ends. Your child is your responsibility, not mine.
This post was edited on 5/14/20 at 10:38 pm
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
18437 posts
Posted on 5/14/20 at 10:40 pm to
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Nah. I pay my property taxes, that's where my interest in the education of other people's children ends. Your child is your responsibility, not mine.

Until some shite bag doesn't send their kid to school, the kid grows up to be a useless criminal and either damages your property or injures you, then your taxes pay to feed and house them.
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
7745 posts
Posted on 5/14/20 at 10:40 pm to
Collectivism is literally slavery. Everything you do is dependent on what the leader says. I don’t bow to any man. Live your life however you want, but don’t hurt other people or take their stuff. It’s amazing how many people are so resistant to freedom.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18857 posts
Posted on 5/14/20 at 10:46 pm to
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It's all pretty much genetically determined how you are going to do in school and life.



i just wanted to go back and highlight how absolutely racist and dumb this statement is.

i know people who were terrible at school and now make a great living as a tradesman.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18857 posts
Posted on 5/14/20 at 10:48 pm to
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Until some shite bag doesn't send their kid to school,


my great grandfather didn't go to school and he became very wealthy.
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39157 posts
Posted on 5/14/20 at 10:48 pm to
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absolutely racist


cringe

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i know people who were terrible at school and now make a great living as a tradesman


muh anecdotes
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