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re: Alleged video of Ahmaud Arbery shooting leaks
Posted on 5/5/20 at 1:57 pm to The Pirate King
Posted on 5/5/20 at 1:57 pm to The Pirate King
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How is this different? Boils down to a black kid (mistaken identity) chased by white men playing billy badass cop, black kid fights back and there’s a struggle over the gun. It goes off and kid ends up dead.
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Trayvon was on top of Zim smashing his head into the concrete. This video showed nothing remotely similar to that.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 1:57 pm to uway
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They're pieces of shite for chasing him and shooting him, even if he was a burglar.
+1. Horrible.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 1:58 pm to jchamil
This kind of shite creates downstream consequences that can’t even be calculated. Imagine being a young black kid who already buys into the black lives matter propaganda then seeing this.
This should just be classified as a simple cold blooded murder. Nothing more nothing less and it should be lumped in with every other tragic cold blooded murder that happens every day. But instead it will be classified and a racist lynching and create significantly more suffering because of downstream effects.
This should just be classified as a simple cold blooded murder. Nothing more nothing less and it should be lumped in with every other tragic cold blooded murder that happens every day. But instead it will be classified and a racist lynching and create significantly more suffering because of downstream effects.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 1:58 pm to Diseasefreeforall
Yeah certainly huge gaps in the video. I’m going to hold opinion until more comes out.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 1:58 pm to Diseasefreeforall
The shooters should be put to death
Frick their story spin.
They started and finished the confrontation.
Frick their story spin.
They started and finished the confrontation.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 1:58 pm to jchamil
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That video doesn't make it clear at all that this kid tried to fight them before the first shot, you can't even see what's going on in the first shot.
The last you see is the guy with the shotgun on the driver's side and the jogger go around the passenger's side.
You hear the first shot as it looks like the jogger crosses in front of the truck to confront the guy who pulled the shotgun.
I don't know how anyone would think the guy running initiated this. The guys in the truck pulled up, waited, pointed the gun and fired a shot before anyone had hands on each other.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 1:59 pm to The Pirate King
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This is strikingly similar to the Trayvon case...why would they go to jail when Zimmer didn’t?
He should have. Wasn't there on the jury so I do not have 100% of the case in front of me. But from what I know he should have served time.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 2:00 pm to Diseasefreeforall
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One of the shooters was a former police investigator
Keyword here. He was way past his prime. Probably bored in retirement and trying to play Superman. What a fool
Posted on 5/5/20 at 2:03 pm to Diseasefreeforall
That video is painful to watch. Only took a few seconds to escalate. Those guys are screwed. They'll spend the rest of their lives thinking of just how much that it wasn't worth it.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 2:03 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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This kind of shite creates downstream consequences that can’t even be calculated. Imagine being a young black kid who already buys into the black lives matter propaganda then seeing this.
Agreed
But many will be hesitant to condemn this because they'll see scum like King and Lee Merritt using this to tell us that black people in white areas live in constant fear for their lives.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 2:04 pm to C
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Yeah certainly huge gaps in the video. I’m going to hold opinion until more comes out.
What could justify the shooting in the video in OP? I'm not sure you can come up with any scenario where waiting in the middle of a street with a shotgun and then shooting someone running down the street is going to be ok
Posted on 5/5/20 at 2:05 pm to sec13rowBBseat28
Yeah. Even if their story is 100% legit and they did see him walking around a construction site.
That still doesn't give them the right to follow him, cut him off, and then try to apprehend him with weapons.
That still doesn't give them the right to follow him, cut him off, and then try to apprehend him with weapons.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 2:05 pm to Pettifogger
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But many will be hesitant to condemn this because they'll see scum like King and Lee Merritt using this to tell us that black people in white areas live in constant fear for their lives.
Has anyone in this thread NOT condemned this?
Posted on 5/5/20 at 2:08 pm to The Pirate King
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Has anyone in this thread NOT condemned this?
No. But if you want outrage, you'll get less of it with these personalities involved. And there will be plenty of posters who hem and haw about this as it develops. It happens every time.
Because the focus won't be on this guy or the individuals who did it, but on some larger societal ill that rests on a ton of false pretenses.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 2:10 pm to jchamil
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That video doesn't make it clear at all that this kid tried to fight them before the first shot
So some guys unlawfully pull a gun on you and you're not supposed to react? I thought the OT was all about self-defense?
Posted on 5/5/20 at 2:13 pm to TH03
Trayvon had every right to defend himself from some strange man following him with a gun. You have no idea what all was going on. He probably feared for his own life and rightfully so.. Zimmerman is a psycho whose own cousin accused him of rape, who punched an undercover cop, who punched his own girlfriend’s father, who had multiple road rage incidents including witnesses saying he was waving his gun...
If anything Trayvon was the one defending himself. Zimmerman is constantly starting stuff with people. Someone finally stood up to him and Zimmerman took the easy way out. All he ever does is hide behind his gun, because he’s a giant pussy and piece of shite.
If anything Trayvon was the one defending himself. Zimmerman is constantly starting stuff with people. Someone finally stood up to him and Zimmerman took the easy way out. All he ever does is hide behind his gun, because he’s a giant pussy and piece of shite.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 2:14 pm to Diseasefreeforall
father son combo reminds me of these two retards
![](https://politicaldig.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/abilene-shoot.jpg)
![](https://politicaldig.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/abilene-shoot.jpg)
Posted on 5/5/20 at 2:16 pm to LSUEnvy
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One of the shooters was a former police investigator.
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Seems as if he would know better than doing something like that
That is one hell of a presumption.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 2:17 pm to WaWaWeeWa
Worthless white trash. Both need to be executed, say he did Rob them, I'd doesn't give them the right to run him down at gunpoint.
Jeebus.
Jeebus.
Posted on 5/5/20 at 2:17 pm to jchamil
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What could justify the shooting in the video in OP? I'm not sure you can come up with any scenario where waiting in the middle of a street with a shotgun and then shooting someone running down the street is going to be ok
That's what I'm thinking at this point.
So with Castle Doctrine (under Kentucky law) a couple things have to happen for even law enforcement use lethal force. First, if you use lethal force you have to be able to justify it. That can only be justified if you believe your life is in danger either through serious physical injury, kidnapping, first-degree and second-degree robbery (in second you have to threaten the immediate use of force upon another person to accomplish the theft, first you have to physically injure someone in the process not involved) or other forcible felonies.
Second, even law enforcement can only use that force if the person is a "dangerous, violent subject".
And that's not even taking into consideration that your justified use of force can't happen as they're running away from where the threat occurred.
Good luck being the guy trying to argue your life was threatened when you outnumbered an (from what we can tell) unarmed guy jogging down the street while you're packing a couple of shotguns.
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