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A Hillary Clinton-Barack Obama ticket to replace Joe Biden? Is it even possible?

Posted on 5/2/20 at 12:52 pm
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/2/20 at 12:52 pm
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Who might be in consideration to become the new nominee — and who would be selected as the vice presidential running mate? Several likely combinations come to mind, starting in many minds with New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, but one particular, truly out-of-the-box combination stops the discussion in its tracks: Hillary Clinton as the nominee and Barack Obama as her running mate.

Now, before everyone rolls their eyes, let that sink in for a moment and do some fairly simple calculations about voters and swing states in your heads. No matter how you add it, subtract it or divide it, that math spells trouble for the Trump campaign.

Could such a scenario come to pass? If Biden flames out and the Democrats don’t want to hand the election to Trump, they would need to do something incredibly creative in a flash.

So now the “Hope for the best, prepare for the worst” cliché comes into play. While most Democrats hope Biden can survive the scandals nipping at his viability, party leaders need to prepare for the worst — that he drops out.

Some Democrats have confessed to me that having Biden drop out, for whatever reason, might not be bad news since they aren’t convinced he can beat Trump in November, despite polls showing him in the lead at this point. And they believe (perhaps a bit wistfully, in some respects) that a Clinton-Obama ticket would be a nightmare for Trump.

The next obvious question is this: Does the Constitution allow Obama’s selection as a vice presidential running mate, given ambiguous language in the 12th and 22nd amendments?

The 12th Amendment states that no one “ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice President of the United States.” The 22nd Amendment — the “not Franklin Delano Roosevelt again” amendment — states that “no person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice.”

The operative word here might be “elected.” If Obama were selected as Clinton’s running mate, and she had to leave office for any reason, then Obama would succeed her. At least one constitutional expert is on record saying there is nothing to prevent such a scenario.

But why would Obama, who has endorsed Biden, ever entertain such a possibility? I can think of two reasons. One, he would be seen among liberal, Never Trumpers as the one who stepped up to save the nation. Two, there is no heavy lifting involved. Obama could move into the vice presidential residence at the Naval Observatory, considered some of the most beautiful, secure grounds in all of Washington, and do as much or as little work as he wanted. His only real task would be during the campaign, to push Hillary Clinton over the victory line.

Some of the smart money may be placed on Joe Biden not becoming the Democrats’ nominee after all. And, at least in a few minds, it may be time for plans “C” and “O,” Democrats.

thehill.com
In the olden Clinton days this is what was called a trial-balloon.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135324 posts
Posted on 5/2/20 at 12:55 pm to
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Is it even possible?
No.
Barack couldn't run.
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
24882 posts
Posted on 5/2/20 at 12:56 pm to
Case example of why you should never drink and post.

This is the political equivalent of texting the ex at 2 am.
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
31717 posts
Posted on 5/2/20 at 12:59 pm to
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Barack Obama ticket


Stop saying dumb shite like this. It makes the whole board look ignorant. Nobody thinks that’s going to happen.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162021 posts
Posted on 5/2/20 at 12:59 pm to
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Two, there is no heavy lifting involved. Obama could move into the vice presidential residence at the Naval Observatory, considered some of the most beautiful, secure grounds in all of Washington, and do as much or as little work as he wanted. His only real task would be during the campaign, to push Hillary Clinton over the victory line.
They must see the inside polling losing the black vote, so they need to make-up for all of the lost Bern Bros?

CNN and the MSM would push it through with their constitutional experts. Or they would talk Michelle Obama into it if it didn't pan out...

Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
62464 posts
Posted on 5/2/20 at 12:59 pm to
No. Obama is not eligible to be VP.
Posted by Tcalman
Member since Jan 2019
1082 posts
Posted on 5/2/20 at 1:00 pm to
Absolutely, anything can happen with the corrupt DNC/MSM!! Truthfully they have to win for survival. Otherwise the corruption, treason, conspiracy to take out the president, all will be exposed. They could be looking at death sentences for what they’ve done! Long thought Obama would be VP.
Posted by Tcalman
Member since Jan 2019
1082 posts
Posted on 5/2/20 at 1:01 pm to
Vice President he said.
Posted by RocketPower
Member since Jan 2020
404 posts
Posted on 5/2/20 at 1:02 pm to
Are you dumb?
Posted by Tcalman
Member since Jan 2019
1082 posts
Posted on 5/2/20 at 1:02 pm to
He said Vice President.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69209 posts
Posted on 5/2/20 at 1:02 pm to
Barack can’t run, but Michelle Obama can.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/2/20 at 1:04 pm to
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The operative word here might be “elected.” If Obama were selected as Clinton’s running mate, and she had to leave office for any reason, then Obama would succeed her. At least one constitutional expert is on record saying there is nothing to prevent such a scenario.

This doesn't make any sense to me.

quote:

The 12th Amendment states that no one “ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice President of the United States.”
How can the expert say there's nothing to prevent this if this is the wording in the 12th Amendment?
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162021 posts
Posted on 5/2/20 at 1:05 pm to
I never said it, the opinion piece- article did. It is highlighted on thehill.com.

The democrats want Biden out but who to replace?

HRC and somebody to carry the black vote. They are desperate.

Number one-most shares. (At least Flynn news made it)

Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35579 posts
Posted on 5/2/20 at 1:08 pm to
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Barack Obama


Cannot ever again run for or be President or Vice President.


It’s very simple and the author of the article is an idiot.
This post was edited on 5/2/20 at 1:10 pm
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162021 posts
Posted on 5/2/20 at 1:08 pm to
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Barack can’t run, but Michelle Obama can.
Exactly. This is where this may be going. MO as VP. She would be mostly out of the fishbowl...

It could be a trial balloon to see if the black jesus still has the magic. (he doesn't he couldn't fill a rally of more than 500 in 2016; in I believe it was Nevada IIRC)
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
32754 posts
Posted on 5/2/20 at 1:11 pm to
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the black jesus



wow
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26348 posts
Posted on 5/2/20 at 1:12 pm to
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How can the expert say there's nothing to prevent this if this is the wording in the 12th Amendment?


The argument is that Obama is not ineligible to “the office of President,” he is ineligible to being elected there again.
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14918 posts
Posted on 5/2/20 at 1:12 pm to
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It could be a trial balloon to see if the black jesus still has the magic

I thought that was determined by the two mid-term elections held during his tenure in the WH.

He led the dems to utter defeat and carnage.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162021 posts
Posted on 5/2/20 at 1:13 pm to
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Absolutely, anything can happen with the corrupt DNC/MSM!! Truthfully they have to win for survival. Otherwise the corruption, treason, conspiracy to take out the president, all will be exposed. They could be looking at death sentences for what they’ve done! Long thought Obama would be VP.
They will try anything. They know the polls showing Biden beating Trump are temp or BS or a mix of both. They know Cuomo can't beat Trump. They know Amash won't be a spoiler...

My husband said he heard someone on Fox news this morning say that Biden needs to show he can remember his name or HRC will be the nominee.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49043 posts
Posted on 5/2/20 at 1:14 pm to

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No.
Barack couldn't run.


Yes, he can.

He just can’t be in the line of succession.
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