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re: Is Fauci a liar? New Video- 504,000 views.

Posted on 4/30/20 at 1:00 pm to
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
11272 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 1:00 pm to
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Is Fauci a liar? Fauci promotes his drug and ignores effective drugs


YES! He's a democrat plant. And a drug pusher for big pharma.

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Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49783 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 1:05 pm to
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To the person who started this post, a big thumbs up. You are correct about everything you posted. Again great job, I have something else to add to the list. 65,000 people in Italy who had R.A. Or Lupus only 20 had corona virus. But and it's a big but none of these 20 died or where admitted to the ICU. The media and Dr Fauci will never mention this. Again great post.


Have any countries with common use of anti malaria drugs had a breakout?

Vietnam, Communist so the numbers are not likely accurate, has shown extremely low incidence of Kung Flu.
Posted by Tcalman
Member since Jan 2019
1082 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 1:12 pm to
Fauci is a POS! Hope China/WHO investigation catches the little bastard on his Gilead drug BS!!!
Posted by davidsheroes
Los Angeles
Member since May 2007
3523 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 5:41 pm to
Wow - who would have guessed?
Posted by KrushGroove
Member since Jun 2012
905 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 5:45 pm to
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The $1000 price tag looks to be false.


that sort of price tag ought to make someone at least skeptical enough to check it out. But if it supports your delusion, it doesn't matter. I'm glad people are waking up to the farcical illusion of capitalism that the legal drug trade operates under
Posted by davidsheroes
Los Angeles
Member since May 2007
3523 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 8:12 pm to
Fauci and friends about to get paid
Posted by longwayfromLA
NYC
Member since Nov 2007
3331 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 8:21 pm to
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Have any countries with common use of anti malaria drugs had a breakout?


The tricky part here is that countries that have trouble with malaria often have weak population health apparatuses and therefore wouldn't test sufficiently or the magnitude of their outbreaks to show up. Malaria is prevalent in a bunch of central African countries, India, and Indonesia. Who knows how well any of them are managing COVID.
Posted by Tcalman
Member since Jan 2019
1082 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 8:30 pm to
Fauci is a corrupt liar!
Posted by DEG
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2009
10539 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 9:02 pm to
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So your argument is Trump is killing the economy because he’s a pussy?


He’s not a pussy. Just stupid.
Posted by davidsheroes
Los Angeles
Member since May 2007
3523 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 1:14 am to
Interesting...
Posted by CCT
LA
Member since Dec 2006
6233 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 4:19 am to
I see Blackrock and Vanguard have stakes in the company. Does anyone know if Soros owns any of Gilead?
Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
17249 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 4:30 am to
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If Fauci is so terrible and it’s so obvious why doesn’t Trump just fire him? Why is trump continuing to follow his advice and Brix if it is so biased or politically motivated. He has had zero issues firing people why would it be different with them.




Say the same for Christopher Wray. He is undoubtedly deserving to be fired in any and everyone’s eyes, yet he’s not.

Also media would make it a huge deal if Fauci were fired, probably another impeachment
Posted by CajunLiberal
Memphis
Member since Oct 2019
256 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 7:08 am to
You're a kind of plant.
Posted by davidsheroes
Los Angeles
Member since May 2007
3523 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 8:30 am to
I believe Trump is playing the long game.

He is letting Fauci talk, the more he talks and makes faulty projections, the more he loses.....
Posted by davidsheroes
Los Angeles
Member since May 2007
3523 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 6:20 am to
Dr. Fauci is about to get paid with his drug that he has promoting over HCQ.

That VA study that “proves” HCQ is ineffective? FUNDED BY GILEAD WHO MAKES REMDESIVIR.

FDA recently approved his drug and Fauci says no other drug can do what his drug can. Maybe Fauci one day will read the 22 studies of HCQ
This post was edited on 5/3/20 at 6:24 am
Posted by shell01
Marianna, FL
Member since Jul 2014
793 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 6:32 am to
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All the while, 22 clinical trials that prove...


Since you bumped this thread and the original FB poster has now blocked me (love you anyway Liz )

The google drive link does not show 22 trials. In fact, it only includes 4 clinical trials, 3 of which are from the same investigators (Didier Raoult et al).

I took the time to look at each of these papers yesterday:
22 Aug 2005: pre-clinical (primate cell culture)
28 Jan 2020: pre-clinical (tissue culture)
13 Jan 2020: non-study (treatment guidelines)
18 Feb 2020: non-study (review article)
27 Feb 2020: non-study (another review article of the same info as 18 Feb )
4 March 2020: non-study (duplicate of above 27Feb review)
9 March 2020: pre-clinical (primate cell culture)
9 March 2020: non-study (treatment guidelines)
20 March 2020: clinical trial (42 pts, open-label non randomized. many concerns about this study)
20 March 2020: non-study (treatment guidelines)
27 March 2020: clinical trial (80 pts, open label, non-randomized, same authors as 20March paper)
10 March 2020: non-study (review article)
21 March 2020: non-study (discussion of known characteristics of chloroquine)
21 March 2020: non-study (chloroquine label)
23 March 2020: wrong drug (study of other drugs, and subgroup analysis of those receiving HCQ did not show difference)
24 March 2020: non-study: “letter to editor” opinion article
26 March 2020: non-study (review article)
7 April 2020: non-study (treatment guidelines)
10 April 2020: clinical trial (62pts, randomized, double-blind, control group)
10 April 2020: no reference, cannot evaluate
12 April 2020: clinical trial; 1061 pts, same authors as above (20 and 27 March), no info on study design, does not appear to be a control group. No info on inclusion criteria. Pts with poor clinical outcomes appear to have been much worse off at baseline
13 April 2020: non-study (review article)

Hopefully we get some convincing data on HCQ soon. But until then, doctors are free to use it as they see fit, that hasn't changed. The only thing that has changed is we now have another option to add to the doctors' tool box for their more severe patients (remember, remdesivir is given via IV for at least 5 days...it's only being used on hospitalized patients.)

eta: And what's that WWL article supposed to prove? There are actually quite a few vaccines in development right now. Working in monkeys is not the same as "proven".
This post was edited on 5/3/20 at 6:45 am
Posted by davidsheroes
Los Angeles
Member since May 2007
3523 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 7:52 am to
The bottom line was that Fauci never gave HCQ a chance and at the same time promoting his drug manufactured by Gilead.

The next point is that HCQ has proven to be effective bUt YouTube, Facebook, Google, etc has censored the doctors, specialist from spreading their message and information. I have watched doctors testimony on HCQ, saved the videos, and when I go back to watch these videos - they are gone.

Why is the mainstream media promoting Gilead’s drug and at the same time attacking HCQ? The reason is not medical but political. The takedown of the economy and the takedown of our President.
This post was edited on 5/3/20 at 7:59 am
Posted by shell01
Marianna, FL
Member since Jul 2014
793 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 8:19 am to
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The bottom line was that Fauci never gave HCQ a chance


HCQ currently has the same status as remdesivir: authorized under an EUA for the treatment of COVID-19

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his drug

It's not "his drug", it's Gilead's.

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The next point is that HCQ has proven to be effective

The only thing HCQ is proven to be effective for is acute and chronic rheumatoid arthritis, chronic discoid lupus erythematosus, systemic
lupus erythematosus and malarial prophylaxis. That's it. It's been tested as a treatment for a myriad of other diseases over the years, but no other proven indications. There are some early suggestive data that it may be effective against COVID-19, but it's certainly not "proven" yet. And guess what? neither is remdesivir. Nothing is.

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I have watched doctors testimony on HCQ,

Which doctors are you talking about? Lots of craptastic videos from supposed experts circulating these days it's hard to keep up.
This post was edited on 5/3/20 at 10:21 am
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147286 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 11:40 am to
sad.
Posted by davidsheroes
Los Angeles
Member since May 2007
3523 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 12:26 pm to
Hydroxychloroquine Has about 90 Percent Chance of Helping COVID-19 Patients, States Association of American Physicians and Surgeons.

These doctors support HCQ. They didn’t write a letter on behalf of Fauci’s drug.

Link to Association website
This post was edited on 5/3/20 at 12:39 pm
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