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re: Is Fauci a liar? New Video- 504,000 views.

Posted on 4/30/20 at 9:33 am to
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 4/30/20 at 9:33 am to
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Hydroxychloroquine is still under clinical trial


Here are links to Yale's and Harvard's IP treatment algorithms (straight from the horse's mouth):

https://files-profile.medicine.yale.edu/documents/e91b4e5c-ae56-4bf1-8d5f-e674b6450847

https://www.massgeneral.org/assets/MGH/pdf/news/coronavirus/mass-general-COVID-19-treatment-guidance.pdf

This is what is being distributed to doctors and nurses. It's good for the Hydroxychloroquine defenders.
This post was edited on 4/30/20 at 9:37 am
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111802 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 9:41 am to
It’s hard to defend Fauci’s reaction here with what’s still very limited data.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
21184 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 9:44 am to
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That VA study that “proves” HCQ is ineffective?


That was a survey, not a study and it has been debunked.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 9:45 am to
I'm trying to get some reliable data on the cost of Remdesivir a tthe moment.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 9:48 am to
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That was a survey, not a study and it has been debunked.



I listened to this yesterday. Quite revealing. The good stuff starts at 3:00.

Sec. of the VA
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 9:51 am to
Right. People want results now, but that isn't typically how clinical trials work. They can take a very long time to get reliable data/results.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 9:56 am to
It seems that 1.5 million doses of Remdesivir had been donated so far. I know that there is a small shortage at certain hospitals using it for clinical trial.

Here is an interview with Gilead's CEO:

https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/29/gilead-ceo-were-going-to-make-sure-that-access-is-not-an-issue-with-remdesivir/

I think it is undetermined how much they are going to charge for this.
This post was edited on 4/30/20 at 9:57 am
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164647 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 10:00 am to
Gilead is losing their money printing Truvada patent so they're going full court press to get Remdesivir as the number 1 Covid treatment. They're not hiding their intentions very well.

It's said over and over again. But always follow the money.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 10:01 am to
The $1000 price tag looks to be false.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 10:04 am to
Note that this list comprises of mostly what Yale and Mass General are using to combat COVID.

This post was edited on 4/30/20 at 10:05 am
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
26885 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 10:05 am to
why can't we just give him his award or medal or whatever it is he's shooting for? he needs to just go away.
Posted by shell01
Marianna, FL
Member since Jul 2014
793 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 10:05 am to
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The $1000 price tag looks to be false.


Of course it's false, and despite the FB poster's claim, it's not a pill either ;)

The drug is not yet approved for any indication so it cannot be sold for any price. Hence why it has been donated thus far.

I'm sure Gilead has done some initial calculations and has an idea of what a course of treatment should cost, but it's not public (or set in stone) yet.
This post was edited on 4/30/20 at 10:06 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119559 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 10:09 am to
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New drugs are sexy. Repurposing old ones isn’t.




New drugs make money. Repurposing old ones don't.

Let's get it right.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164647 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 10:10 am to
Even if Remdesivir costs $9 it's 12.9 times more than HCQ for a company losing a big patent.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 10:11 am to
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Even if Remdesivir costs $9 it's 12.9 times more than HCQ for a company losing a big patent.



people rushing in to defend a drug company

good times had by all
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 10:11 am to
Yea, I think the links I provided should help people form their view on this without biased articles or biased YouTube videos.

The whole fight about this is completely ridiculous and politicized. The real doctors are still working it out.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 10:13 am to
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Even if Remdesivir costs $9 it's 12.9 times more than HCQ for a company losing a big patent.


All the more reason to not completely fabricate things.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 10:57 am to
Fauci has a history of this, he got behind AZT as the only treatment for AIDS, ignoring many other drugs that were effective, and AZT turned out to be more deadly than the disease.
Posted by davidsheroes
Los Angeles
Member since May 2007
3527 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 12:40 pm to
Trump is waiting for the right moment to show Fauci the door
Posted by longwayfromLA
NYC
Member since Nov 2007
3331 posts
Posted on 4/30/20 at 12:59 pm to
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I believe Fauci is the lead investigator on the Remdesivir trial.


That's not how science works. There are dozens of trials for the effectiveness this drug in treating COVID patients in various stages of illness. This is true of hydroxychloroquine as well. The whole idea behind how knowledge is passed forward, scientist to scientist is that results are published and subject to scrutiny. Further, the trials themselves are replicated. It makes no sense to improperly promote one drug over another given that either way, the most effective treatment will out as more trials come in.
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