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Should I Accept the Job Offer?
Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:10 am
Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:10 am
I am having a very hard time deciding what to do with my career as I have a new job offer on the table. Let me start with a little background about myself.
I'm a 30 year old male, civil engineer, divorced but in new relationship, oh and have a dog.
I have been with the same company for my entire career (7 years) my boss has been extremely good to me and I truly loved what I do, and the people that I work with. There is a very good social aspect with the group as a large portion are around my age. I have put a lot of effort into trying to build this group up, and have hired a good group of younger engineers on my project team, it has been a whole lot of fun to watch them grow. All of that being said, I am starting to doubt our corporate executives and I don't see much more room for upward mobility in this company, I think my ceiling is not much higher.
Tee up a few weeks ago and I am approached by a new company looking for someone to fill a roll on their construction site that would be a lot of responsibility. This company is the owner of the site and has plans for many more future facilities. After a few discussions and actually meeting with the CEOs of the company, they have extended me an offer that I'm not sure I ever thought I would receive in my lifetime.
Pay increase - 60% (105k->165k)
All health and life insurance - 100% covered by company
Much better 401k match & Equal bonus opportunity
I specialize in industrial/chemical/petrochemical facility design and work with multi-disciplines. This would be a change in career trajectory because I would go from a design/engineering roll to a construction/quality control roll. But this company has much more upward growth potential as it is a large corporation. So pros/cons!
Pros:
Major pay increase
Upward mobility
Better benefits
Good resume builder
Expand my construction knowledge (improves future marketability)
Cons:
Relocation (2 hrs away from current residence)
Long commute even after relocation (1 hr. Drive each way)
Change in career trajectory
I know no one and very little about the company.
Less work/life balance and social life.
Impact on current relationship (even though she is being super supportive and saying she will be there no matter the decision)
I have a lot of emotional ties to the group I work with currently as my boss has been probably the best boss a person could ask for. He has treated me extremely well and given me every opportunity to grow as fast as I could handle. I have thoroughly enjoyed working for him.
I believe this job opportunity would not only grow my career but I believe it would also help me grow as an individual and it would be a new difficult challenge to try and undertake. Any advice/stories or thought angles or aspects would be greatly appreciated! TIA
I'm a 30 year old male, civil engineer, divorced but in new relationship, oh and have a dog.
I have been with the same company for my entire career (7 years) my boss has been extremely good to me and I truly loved what I do, and the people that I work with. There is a very good social aspect with the group as a large portion are around my age. I have put a lot of effort into trying to build this group up, and have hired a good group of younger engineers on my project team, it has been a whole lot of fun to watch them grow. All of that being said, I am starting to doubt our corporate executives and I don't see much more room for upward mobility in this company, I think my ceiling is not much higher.
Tee up a few weeks ago and I am approached by a new company looking for someone to fill a roll on their construction site that would be a lot of responsibility. This company is the owner of the site and has plans for many more future facilities. After a few discussions and actually meeting with the CEOs of the company, they have extended me an offer that I'm not sure I ever thought I would receive in my lifetime.
Pay increase - 60% (105k->165k)
All health and life insurance - 100% covered by company
Much better 401k match & Equal bonus opportunity
I specialize in industrial/chemical/petrochemical facility design and work with multi-disciplines. This would be a change in career trajectory because I would go from a design/engineering roll to a construction/quality control roll. But this company has much more upward growth potential as it is a large corporation. So pros/cons!
Pros:
Major pay increase
Upward mobility
Better benefits
Good resume builder
Expand my construction knowledge (improves future marketability)
Cons:
Relocation (2 hrs away from current residence)
Long commute even after relocation (1 hr. Drive each way)
Change in career trajectory
I know no one and very little about the company.
Less work/life balance and social life.
Impact on current relationship (even though she is being super supportive and saying she will be there no matter the decision)
I have a lot of emotional ties to the group I work with currently as my boss has been probably the best boss a person could ask for. He has treated me extremely well and given me every opportunity to grow as fast as I could handle. I have thoroughly enjoyed working for him.
I believe this job opportunity would not only grow my career but I believe it would also help me grow as an individual and it would be a new difficult challenge to try and undertake. Any advice/stories or thought angles or aspects would be greatly appreciated! TIA
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Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:12 am to CivilEngr89
quote:
I believe this job opportunity would not only grow my career but I believe it would also help me grow as an individual and it would be a new difficult challenge to try and undertake
It sounds like you already know the answer.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:14 am to CivilEngr89
To me the pros outweigh the cons. See if you can maybe get a raise out of it if you do not want to leave.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:21 am to CivilEngr89
pros outweigh the cons. make the move now while kids aren't an issue. offers like this don't come around often. especially with current conditions. congrats btw. take the leap of faith and don't look back.
where are you located now? and where will the move put you?
where are you located now? and where will the move put you?
This post was edited on 4/17/20 at 10:22 am
Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:26 am to CivilEngr89
I would ensure they are not going to slow or even shut down the construction site due to the current economy. My company has halted and delayed most projects in the field now. Also, in large owner companies you are just a number no matter what they tell you.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:27 am to CivilEngr89
You may need a new opportunity. This may not be the only one coming your way. Be patient and find the right place to be.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:31 am to CivilEngr89
Why would there be a long commute after relocation? Why wouldn’t you just move closer to the location?
Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:34 am to CivilEngr89
I’ll play devil’s advocate here. Money isn’t everything and it sounds like you have a good life and pay now so why change it? It does sound like you want a challenge and if so then go for it.
Either way good luck on your decision. Sometimes making that first step is the hardest decision.
Either way good luck on your decision. Sometimes making that first step is the hardest decision.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:37 am to CivilEngr89
I would jump at that opportunity.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:43 am to CivilEngr89
Could you buy a house on a canal in Hackberry? Get a boat and fish Big Lake. A daily one hour commute could be a lot longer if you live in Lake Charles and are commuting to Cameron Parish (considering the Calcasieu bridge issues). Assuming you’re going to one of the LNG plants.
Would cut down on daily commute, have boat access directly to Big Lake, and not as bad of a drive on the weekends to Lake Charles.
Would buy something like this: LINK
Would cut down on daily commute, have boat access directly to Big Lake, and not as bad of a drive on the weekends to Lake Charles.
Would buy something like this: LINK
This post was edited on 4/17/20 at 10:51 am
Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:46 am to CivilEngr89
quote:
Long commute even after relocation (1 hr. Drive each way)
Don't understand this, are you moving to Lafayette in this scenario?
Posted on 4/17/20 at 10:55 am to CivilEngr89
I can see why you’re on the fence. 60% pay bump and better career outlook is huge. But I gotta say commuting 2 hours a day is gonna be soul sucking man. You’re gonna wear down your car a lot faster, you’re gonna feel like you’re working a lot more bc you’re adding so much time to your day. Why do you have a definite 2 hours commuting every day after relocating? Job site in the middle of nowhere?
Edit: saw you answered that. Since you’re single it’s probably the only time you’d want to consider doing 2 hour commutes
Can you take calls in your car during the commute to reduce your work day? Can you get a company vehicle? Any chance to work from home partially (probably not since construction)? That commute is gonna be the big issue. But I work with guys who do Lafayette to BR everyday for a decade or longer so it’s not impossible, I just couldn’t do it
Edit: saw you answered that. Since you’re single it’s probably the only time you’d want to consider doing 2 hour commutes
Can you take calls in your car during the commute to reduce your work day? Can you get a company vehicle? Any chance to work from home partially (probably not since construction)? That commute is gonna be the big issue. But I work with guys who do Lafayette to BR everyday for a decade or longer so it’s not impossible, I just couldn’t do it
This post was edited on 4/17/20 at 11:00 am
Posted on 4/17/20 at 11:00 am to CivilEngr89
quote:
Pay increase - 60% (105k->165k)
All health and life insurance - 100% covered by company
Much better 401k match & Equal bonus opportunity
Dude. It's not even a question. Take that!
Posted on 4/17/20 at 11:00 am to CivilEngr89
quote:
my boss has been probably the best boss a person could ask for.
then your boss should fully support a change.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 11:23 am to CivilEngr89
I had to make a similar choice last year and stuck with the job that provided me a better quality of life and work life balance.
I suggest you have a face to face meeting with one of the senior leaders at your current company and give them the respect of talking through your thought process. You can take this time to discuss your current position with them and they will respect you more for it. It may open new opportunities to you such as equity/ownership stake, higher incentives and bonuses, etc. Its very hard to find a place where you can make a good living and have great work life balance and enjoy the other people you work with. The grass is not always greener on the other side.I have found when I am in an environment that I enjoy, I am ultimately happier and more productive and the earnings will follow if you're patient. It sounds like your current employer realizes this as the opportunities that they have provided you already I am sure they have bigger plans for you than you may realize for the future.
I suggest you have a face to face meeting with one of the senior leaders at your current company and give them the respect of talking through your thought process. You can take this time to discuss your current position with them and they will respect you more for it. It may open new opportunities to you such as equity/ownership stake, higher incentives and bonuses, etc. Its very hard to find a place where you can make a good living and have great work life balance and enjoy the other people you work with. The grass is not always greener on the other side.I have found when I am in an environment that I enjoy, I am ultimately happier and more productive and the earnings will follow if you're patient. It sounds like your current employer realizes this as the opportunities that they have provided you already I am sure they have bigger plans for you than you may realize for the future.
This post was edited on 4/17/20 at 11:26 am
Posted on 4/17/20 at 11:47 am to CivilEngr89
You were probably underpaid since you have been with one company the whole time. I would weight this a little less than the others.
However, if you think the new work conditions onsite are better, go for it.
Also, don’t let a women influence this decision, unless you going to marry her.
However, if you think the new work conditions onsite are better, go for it.
Also, don’t let a women influence this decision, unless you going to marry her.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 11:53 am to CivilEngr89
money talks. would you stay at your current job for 150k and maybe a little more vacation? without having to move or deal with commute time?
Posted on 4/17/20 at 11:54 am to CivilEngr89
Oh and for contrast (not to hijack the thread):
I recently took a new job with a Manufacturer (I was with a distributer) and received 30K more per year, a 2020 Dodge Ram company truck, Phone, computer, covering less territory and covering less product. Didn't have to move. That was a no-brainer IMHO.
I recently took a new job with a Manufacturer (I was with a distributer) and received 30K more per year, a 2020 Dodge Ram company truck, Phone, computer, covering less territory and covering less product. Didn't have to move. That was a no-brainer IMHO.
Posted on 4/17/20 at 12:07 pm to CivilEngr89
Do it. I took that move about the same age from the office to a giant field project to run it and haven’t looked back.
The first few years will suck with long days onsite, but once you move up some to high level project or program management your work/life balance comes back.
That pay increase is nice looking too
The first few years will suck with long days onsite, but once you move up some to high level project or program management your work/life balance comes back.
That pay increase is nice looking too
Posted on 4/17/20 at 12:09 pm to CivilEngr89
I would absolutely stay in BR.
To me, life is way more than work and money though. If you enjoy going to work everyday, then that is awesome. People will spend their entire career looking for a place like that... I would meet with your current employer though to get a clearer picture on your future with the company.
To me, life is way more than work and money though. If you enjoy going to work everyday, then that is awesome. People will spend their entire career looking for a place like that... I would meet with your current employer though to get a clearer picture on your future with the company.
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