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We have tested ~1.8 million out of 330 million people in US
Posted on 4/6/20 at 6:20 am
Posted on 4/6/20 at 6:20 am
Truly remarkable statistic to look at. Especially with what we know of this being spread through individuals that are asymptomatic. If only we could have responded as well as countries like South Korea.
The article below explains how the CDC and FDA botched testing initially. Also expands on how we got so far behind in testing. It’s nearly impossible to make accurate predictions with such little data.
We still have no clue how many people actually have it or how many have died from it.
Not the most recent article but very informative. Scroll down a little to get to the bulk of it all if you don’t feel like reading everything.
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The article below explains how the CDC and FDA botched testing initially. Also expands on how we got so far behind in testing. It’s nearly impossible to make accurate predictions with such little data.
We still have no clue how many people actually have it or how many have died from it.
Not the most recent article but very informative. Scroll down a little to get to the bulk of it all if you don’t feel like reading everything.
LINK /
LINK
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Posted on 4/6/20 at 6:21 am to Gumbeaux14
Oh look, it is Mr 10 posts. I wonder if he knows Mr. 5 posts who started the other bot thread.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 6:22 am to Gumbeaux14
You don’t have to have a test to successfully contain the disease. You do have to be willing to institute immediate, aggressive, and uniform quarantine measures. We didn’t want to do that.
This post was edited on 4/6/20 at 6:23 am
Posted on 4/6/20 at 6:23 am to Gumbeaux14
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Truly remarkable statistic to look at. Especially with what we know of this being spread through individuals that are asymptomatic. If only we could have responded as well as countries like South Korea.
The article below explains how the CDC and FDA botched testing initially. Also expands on how we got so far behind in testing. It’s nearly impossible to make accurate predictions with such little data.
We still have no clue how many people actually have it or how many have died from it.
Not the most recent article but very informative. Scroll down a little to get to the bulk of it all if you don’t feel like reading everything.
LINK /
LINK
Testing really doesn't solve anything.
First it was we need more vents, that was bullshite, we had data.
Now, we're on to the testing thing, well that is more or less bullshite.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 6:26 am to gthog61
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Oh look, it is Mr 10 posts. I wonder if he knows Mr. 5 posts who started the other bot thread.
Yeah. He should have bought up a bunch of TD usernames like all the puppet-masters of the anti-Trump bots on this site.
How much was the going rate? Anyone recall?
Posted on 4/6/20 at 6:27 am to GeauxFightingTigers1
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Testing really doesn't solve anything.
does.
isolate actual case.
track contacts.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 6:30 am to CelticDog
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does.
isolate actual case.
track contacts.
No, because unless you lock everyone up for 12-18 months the virus will be back. It has limited purpose, say to make sure someone doesn't infect a nursing home.
This is what many us said needed to happen. You're not going to kill the virus with testing, you need saturation.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 6:31 am to Gumbeaux14
Troll alert!
Posted on 4/6/20 at 6:32 am to Gumbeaux14
Don't get your panties in a wad. This is the big week of testing.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 6:32 am to ABearsFanNMS
How is it a troll? The CDC did in fact botch the testing early on.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 6:33 am to Boatshoes
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You don’t have to have a test to successfully contain the disease. You do have to be willing to institute immediate, aggressive, and uniform quarantine measures. We didn’t want to do that.
I still don’t want to.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 6:37 am to Boatshoes
I agree with you in that regard.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 6:48 am to CelticDog
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does.
isolate actual case.
track contacts.
Limited. First it can take seven to ten days to show symptoms. Plus a day to test and get results if you are in a quick test state.
So for seven days or more, you are going to recall all contacts? I went to the grocery store and talked to the guy behind the counter, etc etc etc.
Testing is overrated. In reality, you have a fever you stay home if you are less than fifty. If you have the flu, you should stay home anyways.
There are many people with fevers that don't even know they have fevers.
So everyone should wear masks. Second, before entering a large building, everyone gets temperature taken with no touch thermometer. You have a fever, you can't enter and you go home.
Testing, sure. For older people and people work preexisting conditions. If positive they get hcq and zithromax. Younger people who develop symptoms also get tested.
When we have tons of tests, we can start testing people. Overall though, testing is off limited use.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 6:50 am to Gumbeaux14
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We have tested ~1.8 million out of 330 million people in US
Where is the warehouse with the other 328 million test kits? I'll bet it is a big one.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 6:51 am to Gumbeaux14
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If only we could have responded as well as countries like South Korea
Here we go again.Any idea what happens to you if you test positive in SK? Any idea what happens to people who come in contact with you even they don't test positive?
It's a police state and they're able to seize your cell phone and credit card transactions without warrants,track your moves and your contacts 24/7,publish your name and also
fine you if they think you've broke containment.
So what happened in France and Spain? Both had massive testing programs in place that were rolled out.How come it didn't work there?
Posted on 4/6/20 at 6:52 am to GeauxFightingTigers1
Testing would only really be helpful to limit contact to high at risk people i.e. elderly sick like at a nursing home. Yet, they are not really isolating these people... the medical staffs are the ones infecting them.
As for the rest of the world, unless everyone lives in isolation for say 12-18 months, testing really doesn't help.... as the virus will be back when the conditions are right.
We have flu tests, so? We still have the flu.
As for the rest of the world, unless everyone lives in isolation for say 12-18 months, testing really doesn't help.... as the virus will be back when the conditions are right.
We have flu tests, so? We still have the flu.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 6:57 am to GeauxFightingTigers1
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Testing really doesn't solve anything.
quote:
Now, we're on to the testing thing, well that is more or less bullshite.
Are you claiming testing won't provide better data or that having better data is bullshite?
And that's just one piece of the puzzle that testing would help solve. Hypothetically, if we were all tested today, the people that cleared the virus and have antibodies could return to a somewhat normal life, like returning to work in many cases, and they would act as buffers for the rest of us. How is that "more or less" bullshite?
Posted on 4/6/20 at 7:00 am to nematocyte
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Hypothetically, if we were all tested today, the people that cleared the virus and have antibodies could return to a somewhat normal life
The obvious problem is that you can’t test everyone in one day. So as you test people who don’t have the virus, they can subsequently contract the virus.
ETA: testing for the virus is all we have on a big scale now. Antibody testing is still in the testing phase.
This post was edited on 4/6/20 at 7:01 am
Posted on 4/6/20 at 7:00 am to nematocyte
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Are you claiming testing won't provide better data or that having better data is bullshite?
And that's just one piece of the puzzle that testing would help solve. Hypothetically, if we were all tested today, the people that cleared the virus and have antibodies could return to a somewhat normal life, like returning to work in many cases, and they would act as buffers for the rest of us. How is that "more or less" bullshite?
Well, testing to see if you had it or currently have it are two different things. My guess is when the anti-body test is available the death rate will crater to flu+ rates (give or take).
That is not what they are talking about, they are talking about people that might currently have it would test positive. I'm free to go out and about today with no test, not sure what is going on. I don't take a test to see if I had this years flu before I walk out the door.
Most likely this will turn into a seasonal outbreak virus.
This post was edited on 4/6/20 at 7:02 am
Posted on 4/6/20 at 7:02 am to Gumbeaux14
Oh look, another retard.
We have tested 1.8 million sick people, and 1.5 million of them turns out didn't even have Wuhan Flu.
What does that tell you?
Next closest country has only tested 900k btw.
S Korea has tested less than 500k.
We have tested 1.8 million sick people, and 1.5 million of them turns out didn't even have Wuhan Flu.
What does that tell you?
Next closest country has only tested 900k btw.
S Korea has tested less than 500k.
This post was edited on 4/6/20 at 7:06 am
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