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Does the Jeffery Epstein case make you appreciate Eyes Wide Shut differently?

Posted on 3/30/20 at 7:59 am
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 7:59 am
When the movie came out, there were statements made by many people in the industry that Stanley Kubrick knew about “things”, and that these types of powerful people and these types of activities exist.

Most people agreed theoretically that it was likely true, but most, like me, didn’t really want to know that these people and those activities really existed in large numbers. We were more comfortable keeping it at a distance. Keeping the people nameless and faceless.

I think that in light of the Epstein case and him being suicided, it feels more like cowardice to not acknowledge that the “ruling class”, the power brokers”, are thick with this amount of immorality.

It’s more than just the unbounded sexual morality or the sex abuse or the trafficking of sex slaves including child sex slaves, it’s the use of those things to exert power. Who holds the strings?

Eyes Wide Shut now seems tame compared Epstein’s Island.

Are our eyes still “wide shut”?
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 8:02 am to
There is a theory that society’s elite paid China to release the Corona virus to distract the public from The Epstein case.
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
7732 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 8:03 am to
It was kind of the reverse for me. Eyes Wide Shut made me realize these sorts of things are happening.

I also think he's telling us a lot of different info in The Shining. It's just harder to interpret because it's more subtle.
This post was edited on 3/30/20 at 8:04 am
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 8:12 am to
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There is a theory that society’s elite paid China to release the Corona virus to distract the public from The Epstein case.


Thats stupid
Posted by Melvin
Member since Apr 2011
23535 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 8:41 am to
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There is a theory that society’s elite paid China to release the Corona virus to distract the public from The Epstein case.
Well they didn’t time it very well.
Posted by WPBTiger
Parts Unknown
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 8:43 am to
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 8:46 am to
I would like to see Stanley Kubrick's cut of the movie.
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 8:47 am to
The symbolism throughout the movie is crazy to think about.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 9:09 am to
I heard that the Apollo moon landings were faked by Kubrick's film crew.

Yet, for 2001, they actually sent men into space to be filmed.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 10:38 am to
That shite occurs, I’m sure. There’s not much reason to believe that it’s extremely pervasive.
Interestingly, a friend of mine worked for Homeland Security, and a big part of his job was investigating sex trafficking. It’s not like there are underage orgies on every corner.
But the Epstein case demonstrates that some rich and powerful people are perverse.
Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 11:17 am to
Epstein died of Covid-19 you know!
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39287 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 11:21 am to
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Does the Jeffery Epstein case make you appreciate Eyes Wide Shut differently?

No but seeing Lolita again recently did.
Posted by YumYum Sauce
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
8323 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 11:36 am to
men love to have sex, as much as possible


rich men have access to sex as often as possible


no, i dont think its some weird ritualistic bullshite, its just rich men getting their jollies off at parties, on boats, islands, etc.


Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20152 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 11:47 am to
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Interestingly, a friend of mine worked for Homeland Security, and a big part of his job was investigating sex trafficking. It’s not like there are underage orgies on every corner.


Well, I’m not just talking about the sex orgies. I’m talking about the cultivated personae of Jeffery Epstein who hobnobbed with and provided “services” for presidents, royalty, and A-Listers of all sorts for years. And then when he got caught (the first time) for serious sex crimes, got a slap on the wrist and a pass from the DOJ and the Federal Courts.

We need to take the blinders off. This wasn’t just a rich playboy with a child sex fetish. This guy was an operative to obtain Kompromat.

Combine that with the Clinton/Podesta emails (re: Marina Abramovic), the Anthony Wiener sex crimes, the NXIVM (Nexium) case, etc.

Eyes Wide Shut is an apt title. We just can’t seem to look at this level of evil even when it’s right in front of our noses.
This post was edited on 3/30/20 at 11:52 am
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 11:58 am to
Weren’t the participants mostly consenting adult in E W S? Maybe I’m remembering it
wrong.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20152 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 12:03 pm to
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Weren’t the participants mostly consenting adult in E W S? Maybe I’m remembering it
wrong.


It seemed ambiguous regarding the freedom to participate or not for the young females. They sure seemed to be afraid for their lives.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 12:04 pm to
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Weren’t the participants mostly consenting adult in E W S? Maybe I’m remembering it wrong.

The costume shop owner was pimping his teen daughter. That was the pedo moment.
Posted by Ham Solo
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 12:09 pm to
quote:

Weren’t the participants mostly consenting adult in E W S? Maybe I’m remembering it
wrong.


Yes, but only because he couldn't use children to shoot those scenes. He gives plenty of other hints in the movie that children are the victims.

When Tom Cruise first enters the ceremony the girls are on their knees, but you can't see this because of their robes. They appear to be children if you've never seen it before.

Also the pedo bear references and much more.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
36108 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 12:12 pm to
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When Tom Cruise first enters the ceremony the girls are on their knees, but you can't see this because of their robes. They appear to be children if you've never seen it before.

Come on. You’re reaching. Prostitutes are on their knees so they’ll look like children? They’re hookers. They kneel for other reasons.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39287 posts
Posted on 3/30/20 at 12:12 pm to
That one girl was killed by the group. She may have been there on her own originally but she knew they would kill her for helping an outsider.
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