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re: Swine flu killed 17,000 Americans that happened on Obama’s watch

Posted on 3/22/20 at 10:33 pm to
Posted by Goforit
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Posted on 3/22/20 at 10:33 pm to
They named the Swine Flu after Obama.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 3/22/20 at 10:36 pm to
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Was there nationwide lockdowns during this time? Was there national panic? Did the stock market crash? Did the media daily hound Obama about his lack of leadership? Why?
There was a big response, yes. And Obama was heavily criticized that fall for potential mis-steps.

But I don't think the swine flu ever had the same estimated and/or realized hospitalization rates. The problem with WuFlu really isn't mortality - it's the hospitalization rate.
Posted by cave canem
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/22/20 at 10:38 pm to
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Was there nationwide lockdowns during this time? Was there national panic? Did the stock market crash? Did the media daily hound Obama about his lack of leadership? Why?


Because if Covid 19 is alowed the same amount of time to spread those will be rookie numbers.

It is not necessarily more lethal it is more virulent, which is what "the flu is worse" retards can not grasp.


Posted by LSU2a
SWLA to Dallas
Member since Aug 2012
2851 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 10:40 pm to
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The media is conspiring to tank our economy. If you can’t see this, your head is buried in the ground.


Ah, the media controls half of the world’s governments. You learn something new every day.
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 3/22/20 at 10:44 pm to
I look for America's CV infections to be near flu numbers from 2 years ago (30-50M)...but I dont see deaths being that high at all (61k)...more like 15k-20k

But due to all the preventions...this years flu numbers limbo lower than last year's 34k deaths...
Probably 25-30k


The issue is there are so many people walking around asymptomatic...look at Rand, healthy a bit younger than his peers, gets the stick in the head because he has to attend meetings...has it...the wealthy that demand it have been getting tested obviously, because a bunch have it
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58194 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 10:44 pm to
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Ah, the media controls half of the world’s governments. You learn something new every day


I’m talking about the US and the US media. Don’t be a dumb arse.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
24969 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 10:44 pm to
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Do you think 17,000 Americans will die from Corona?
Hell no, especially with half the country locked down and considering its looking like the shite has already been in the USA for months.

Guaranteed though, the economic fallout will result in more and bigger long term problems than 17,000 deaths.
Posted by IceTiger
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/22/20 at 10:45 pm to
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Ah, the media controls half of the world’s governments. You learn something new every day


Wag the dog, fam
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 3/22/20 at 10:47 pm to
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It is not necessarily more lethal it is more virulent, which is what "the flu is worse" retards can not grasp


It's really not drastically more virulent...

On average, during the whole course of the infection...

1 person passes it to 2 people...numbers wise, it's not that passable

Eta: Not that it's not effective, it is, but it's marginally better than flu...the truth is the flu is very effective at removing large portions of populations...just as CV might be
This post was edited on 3/22/20 at 10:52 pm
Posted by Threelot
Abraham's Oasis
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 3/22/20 at 10:56 pm to
[quote]It won’t end well for anyone[/quote

You are correct, it won't. And 17k will be a fraction of the end result.
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
5307 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 11:03 pm to
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And 17k will be a fraction of the end result.

bullshite.
Posted by EastBankTiger
A little west of Hoover Dam
Member since Dec 2003
21352 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 11:08 pm to
This is a passage from a WaPo article a few days back. Funny how no one mentions THIS...

"After Barack Obama became President in 2009, he eliminated the White House Health and Security Office, which worked on international health issues."

Even CNN admits that Obama dropped the ball in his delayed H1N1 pandemic response later that year. LINK
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 3/22/20 at 11:21 pm to
I'm with you, especially looking at US numbers.

However, Italy only lost 179 people to Swine flu. Europe as a whole 2900.

The CDC gives a range of US deaths where 17k is on the high end. For some reason all the numbers in wiki and European sources has our numbers in the 3500 range.
This post was edited on 3/22/20 at 11:24 pm
Posted by flyAU
Scottsdale
Member since Dec 2010
24855 posts
Posted on 3/22/20 at 11:59 pm to
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H1N1 swine flu has killed as many as 17,000 Americans, including 1,800 children, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported on Friday.


Why the frick do i not have any recollection of this? I remember H1N1 but not people dying. I may be from a different dimension. That being said, I am in a dimension that is currently fricking the US economy and want to get out of here.
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