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re: Final thoughts on Hunters.

Posted on 3/6/20 at 3:46 pm to
Posted by PawnMaster
Down Yonder
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 3/6/20 at 3:46 pm to
The only white, non-jew "Hunter" is even a Nazi. The show is trying too hard.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41348 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 3:53 pm to
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I mean, this just isn’t true. I’m not sure why you keep saying it over and over.


LINK

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Efraim Zuroff, the Brooklyn-raised director of the Simon Wiesenthal Center in Jerusalem, is now busy chasing down what he called credible information about two other Nazi collaborators from Germany living openly in Florida and Hawaii.




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“There were hundreds of thousands of perpetrators of Nazi crimes and the vast majority never left Europe,” said Eli Rosenbaum, director of the Department of Justice’s Human Rights and Special Prosecutions Section, the Nazi-hunting agency responsible for investigating Palij and removing him from the US.





Yeah. I have no idea where he would have gotten the ABSURD idea that the Nazi hunters post WWII would have been Jewish and not single black mothers or lesbian black FBI agents? What a buffoon!
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
67751 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 3:55 pm to
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Every white character in the show that mattered (sans the hunters) were Nazis or Nazi protectors. Which is fine, because in reality they all would've been.



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Just as in reality practically all Nazi hunters would've been jews.


There are what 8 hunters?

5 of them are Jews
1 is black
1 is Asian
1 is White

5/8s are jews.

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There was practically nothing at all about the concept of Nazi hunting that was "multi-cultural or sensitive to sexual orientations or races or nationalities. This was uniquely Jewish and Jordan Peele shite all over it.


This isn’t a terrible point at all. But at the same time the cool bad arse Nazi hunting was almost completely Israeli too.

I dont Love the show stylistically. It’s supposed to have the retro 70s action vibe, and that’s why you have a black wo man names Roxy and Cartoonishly sadistic Nazis.

I mean Yeah, it’s not a great show.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72409 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 3:58 pm to
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1 is White
Was he a nazi?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
67751 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 3:59 pm to
No the white Hunter was the nun British M16 chick

Wait is she a Nazi? I didnt Finish because like I said, not a great show.
This post was edited on 3/6/20 at 4:00 pm
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72409 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 4:00 pm to
I don’t know.

I just like fanning flames. Never watched the show.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 3/6/20 at 4:11 pm to
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I have no idea where he would have gotten the ABSURD idea that the Nazi hunters post WWII would have been Jewish



I never said Jewish people wouldn’t have hunted Nazis. But two links of a couple of mensches who did so also doesn’t disprove that others races, nationalities, etc would have been happy to participate.

And those were links to official entities trying to bring Nazis to justice. This show portrays nothing of the sort.


It’s one super rich very old guy who brings in some fresh blood to help him and his also old Jewish pals track down and MURDER Nazis. Not arrest them and take them to court.


This is a mercenary squad in it for money as much as anything else, at least the non Jewish members, who yeah happen to dislike Nazis and relish killing them.

Is that really so unbelievable, at least in the context of the revenge fantasy that is this show?
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
14722 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 4:13 pm to
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Just as in reality practically all Nazi hunters would've been jews




I mean, this just isn’t true. I’m not sure why you keep saying it over and over.




Of course it's true.

Nazi atrocities extended past jews but the global hunt to bring them to justice did not.

The concept of Nazi hunting was a uniquely jewish experience. Spearheaded and led by jews with only peripheral support from non-Jewish groups or people.

The burden of bring Nazi war criminals to justice was a uniquely Jewish experience.

I "keep saying it" because it's true.
Posted by CockCommander
Haha
Member since Feb 2014
2897 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 4:18 pm to
You do realize that the Ultimate goal of Nazism is the complete extermination of every human being that isn't Aryan right?

It's impossible for a Nazi to be anything other than white for that reason.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
14722 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 4:20 pm to
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This is a mercenary squad in it for money as much as anything else, at least the non Jewish members, who yeah happen to dislike Nazis and relish killing them.


And that's the big lie. Because there were no "mercenaries in it for the money". Not one. Every single Nazi hunter in the world did it as a moral obligation. They did it as a calling. They did it as a responsibility.

To say they were "mercenaries" as the producers of this show did, is to say that in reality they couldn't get jews to rally to the cause. When in fact, it was practically nothing but jews who hunted them.
This post was edited on 3/6/20 at 4:21 pm
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
14722 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 4:21 pm to
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You do realize that the Ultimate goal of Nazism is the complete extermination of every human being that isn't Aryan right?

It's impossible for a Nazi to be anything other than white for that reason.



Yes I know all that.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
67751 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 4:21 pm to
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And that's the big lie.


That’s really not even the biggest lie in the show.

It’s fiction man.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
14722 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 4:24 pm to
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And that's the big lie.



That’s really not even the biggest lie in the show.

It’s fiction man.


You're lost and you have been for a few pages now. You should tap out.
This post was edited on 3/6/20 at 4:26 pm
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58180 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 4:33 pm to
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Well Jordan Peele completely and unapologetically appropriated jewish culture and history when he injected militant blacks (who frickin' hated jews in 1977), asians and black lesbians into the uniquely jewish attempt to right some pretty profound wrongs.


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There was practically nothing at all about the concept of Nazi hunting that was "multi-cultural or sensitive to sexual orientations or races or nationalities. This was uniquely Jewish and Jordan Peele shite all over it.




Dude... Jordan Peele was one of 10 different EPs on this show. He didn't create it, he wasn't ever in the writing room, he wasn't a show runner, and he made zero directorial decisions. His involvement was essentially helping his friend David Weil (the show's creator) sell the concept to Amazon. Weil is Jewish BTW and his grandmother is a Holocaust survivor.

Get over your woke derangement syndrome.
This post was edited on 3/6/20 at 4:46 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
67751 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 4:41 pm to
It just feels like you started at an opinion and worked backwards.

You get a “white people bad” “diverse non-white people good” babe and now you’re sorta ignoring it all.

There were no jewish vigilantes killing Nazis. As far as I know Israel had Mossad take out one or two, and a few private citizens “hunted” them down and exposed them to authorities. Who often didn’t do a whole lot.

They generally weren’t going around killing any of them.

Stage show very much departs from realism, but you can only do that so much. But I think You can say “we want a slightly more diverse hero group” for viewer purposes makes as much sense as some super heavy handed agenda about whites being bad.

And I dont feel like Roxy’s character was ever really committed beyond the paycheck
This post was edited on 3/6/20 at 4:42 pm
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63747 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 4:56 pm to


White Nazis are funnier.


and the multi-culturalism of the Hunters provides more opportunity for humor.
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
11947 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 4:57 pm to
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His involvement was essentially helping his friend David Weil (the show's creator) sell the concept to Amazon. Weil is Jewish BTW and his grandmother is a Holocaust survivor.


Classic cultural appropriation
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
14722 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 5:49 pm to
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His involvement was essentially helping his friend David Weil (the show's creator) sell the concept to Amazon. Weil is Jewish BTW and his grandmother is a Holocaust survivor.



Classic cultural appropriation


You're chuckling emoji aside, Peele did though.

According to this Entertainment weekly article LINK /. His name is front and center as the producer of the show.

I would think Entertainment weekly would be the "go to" source for stuff like this but no matter. His name is the biggest associated with this show, that's for sure and his influence is all over it.

He did indeed culturally appropriate and manipulate the jewish war crimes experience for his own social agenda as did others involved in the production of this show. He wasn't alone in this but he is the face of it. His is the biggest name associated with this and it's all over it.
This post was edited on 3/6/20 at 7:34 pm
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
14722 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 5:56 pm to
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White Nazis are funnier.


and the multi-culturalism of the Hunters provides more opportunity for humor.



Like I said in the OP, the Nazis were the most entertaining and captivating part of the show and I'm not entirely sure it was meant to be that way.

And as far as the "multi-culturalism" goes. Yeah that shite was funny for about three episodes and then the show decided it had a message to send. Once that happened, it was up to the Nazis to carry that garbage and you know what? They were so entertaining and captivating, they almost did.
This post was edited on 3/6/20 at 7:35 pm
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
11947 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 6:12 pm to
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He did indeed culturally appropriate and manipulate the jewish war crimes experience for his own social agenda as well as others involved in the production of this show. He wasn't alone in this but he is the face of it. His is the biggest name associated with this and it's all over it.


How many times do we have to tell you he wasn’t the writer of this show? The white Jew with the Holocaust survivor grandma did.
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