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re: Will Wade's excuse for poor defense in the second half of the Kentucky game

Posted on 2/20/20 at 5:48 pm to
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 2/20/20 at 5:48 pm to
if a coach can’t coach his team because they’re 40 feet away, there’s a serious problem.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18194 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 5:53 pm to
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Lol. Totally won the sec by accident last year.

You continually show your ignorance in every will wade thread, well done.
so poor in-game coaches have never won championships?

Good lord, man.

Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48575 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 6:19 pm to
You know I’m a big Wade defender when criticism isn’t warranted but his comments and deflection this week are inexcusable. Throwing Watford under the bus is beyond the pale. Watford didn’t make the decision to be guarding point guards.
This post was edited on 2/20/20 at 6:20 pm
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19163 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 6:22 pm to
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This is absolutely a BS excuse for them playing bad defense and if you are having to tell them where to be at at this point in the season, you haven't done your job teaching your concepts on defense. High schoolers aren't confused about what their role is on both sides of the court much less just on defense.


I agree. I will give you an interesting tidbit from the UK post game player interviews and You can take it FWIW. One of the players said in response to UK media question about the late second half run they made that the UK players told their coaches in a TO huddle that LSU players were tired and they were not and they could take advantage of that. I dont know how accurate that was because LSUmade a good end game run.
Posted by TriedandTrue
Member since Jan 2020
244 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 8:12 pm to
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Really? Which other freshman is playing? Mays, Smart, Days, Williams are experienced players. If they haven’t “grasped it” that’s on the coaching.


Days and Williams averaged playing less than half a game last year.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24678 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 11:55 pm to
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I played the damn game, it's not confusing how to play defense whether it's man or zone.

I’m going to bet you didn’t play against Cal or Pearl or even WW. It really is about match-ups and this team is not disciplined especially Watford. The problem is Watford is the most talented player they have and the tallest ie good rebounder. WW has to make a decision to sit him and get killed on the boards or play him. Playing him costs the defense.
Manning and Taylor are out of basketball shape and Watford is a liability defensively. Playing a 6 man rotation isn’t going to win many games against far more talented teams than yours.
You can thank Joe Alleva for that turd. WW can coach until he is blue in the face, but the players have to execute it and from what I see with Watford particularly he is getting sucked in bc he thinks he has to go inside and block everything or crash the boards.
They will win a few more games this season and make the tournament but won’t have much success.
I’m looking forward to next season assuming these commits stick and the talent comes in.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24678 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 11:57 pm to
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ame
if a coach can’t coach his team because they’re 40 feet away, there’s a serious problem
it’s called a point. Skylar and Smart aren’t even a 1/2 of what Waters brought defensively and running the offense. They are ok players and that’s it. Neither will make it in the league.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 2/21/20 at 5:04 am to
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It is an insight into his coaching, and further proof that they are trying to run a way complicated defensive system



Hmmmm

Curious. How many of his players when he was at VCU were from the South? We all know what the education system is like down here.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 2/21/20 at 5:07 am to
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First logical reply, thanks for your post


I don't always agree with him but Alt26 is one of the better posters on this website. You will rarely get anything but a thoughtful reply out of him.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 2/21/20 at 5:10 am to
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Well if they blow by you every time for a free layup there will be no need for three point shots


Well when their 3 point percentage is nearly as good as their layup percentage...


Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 2/21/20 at 5:20 am to
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There should be at least 2-3 guys on the court constantly talking and saying what's happening and what to do. One would expect that main person would be Skylar. It's important to have a coach on the court, and it doesn't seem like we have tha



I wonder if that's what that little shouting match was, a few games back, between Skylar and Emmitt. Coaches might have been on Skylar to be more of a vocal leader on the court and the players weren't used to hearing that from him. He might have got on Emmitts arse about something and Emmitt didn't like it so they got into it.

Skyler is smart and demure. He doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who's cocky and has a big ego. Sometimes that's what you need as a the leader so that they can stand up to players on the team who might be resisting their leadership.
This post was edited on 2/21/20 at 5:22 am
Posted by ArcticTiger
North Pole
Member since Nov 2018
1806 posts
Posted on 2/21/20 at 7:09 am to
Sorry Coach but at this point in the season if they still don’t know then that’s on you!
Posted by mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
4346 posts
Posted on 2/21/20 at 8:09 am to
LSU is is undersized and has a very short bench. Having said that LSU has been below average on defense all of WW tenure and JJones before that.

We have no Bigs on this team. No rim protector. No Bigs so far in next year’s recruiting class. A couple on the radar screen. Freshman rarely are SEC ready rim protectors.
Maybe Shareef if eligible will help.

Nothing new here The defense being in front of the bench is not really much of a reason one way or the other.
Posted by des4271
Member since Oct 2014
4034 posts
Posted on 2/21/20 at 9:19 am to
The bigs obviously help but their problems are far more deep rooted. Smart in particular,some of the others too, are not doing a great job of stopping dribble penetration combined with bad rotations are leading to all the open 3's and most of their problems in defense. At certain times they get caught in mismatches in personnel that cause these problems but as a coach you have to recognize them and sub for that mismatch and now that Manning is back he will help with depth and he's a pretty good defender.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93957 posts
Posted on 2/21/20 at 9:51 am to
My first reply in this thread and i haven't read it all so I apologize if this has already been mentioned. When I heard the full context of the comments on the radio, it sounded to me like he was talking about the players not communicating and calling out switches. Communication is a vital part of team defense.
Posted by des4271
Member since Oct 2014
4034 posts
Posted on 2/21/20 at 11:53 am to
Yeah, it was pointed out that I didn't post all of the context and it wasn't on purpose. I was on Dandydon website and what I posted is what was the only quote from the presser.

They obviously have communication issues with pretty much every situation they come across on defense. My point to be made is, yes, the players aren't executing on defense but for him to make that statement, at this juncture of the season and the players aren't "getting it", you're just as much to blame for your players not having a better understanding of what you want from them defensively and felt like that quote was a lame excuse for why they gave up so many second half points.

I'm not calling for the man's job, I just think after 3 years of poor defensive performance you would have tried to correct this. I truly believe the defensive problems are what's keeping this team from being just an above average team to being a really good team.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93957 posts
Posted on 2/21/20 at 12:00 pm to
It absolutely shouldn't be a problem in year 3. It came across to me as coaching through the media to get his point across which I've never had a problem with. I have just never minded coaches calling out players in the media because IMO they're using it as a last resort. I highly doubt that this is the first the players are hearing about it. I always had coaches that coaches hard and it never bothered me.

Eta: I meant players in general. I wouldn't want him naming players in the media.
This post was edited on 2/21/20 at 12:05 pm
Posted by des4271
Member since Oct 2014
4034 posts
Posted on 2/21/20 at 12:55 pm to
I don't mind the calling out of players either. From that quote, he's making it seem like the players are confused on what to do and he's barking out where to go and if that's the case, you're doing a bad job conveying your concepts and strategies ( the only player on the court that wasn't in your system is Watford, so the rest should already know the concepts and rotations). I know some on here feel that maybe the players aren't smart enough (maybe that's a small part of it) but they've played for 10-12 years of ball and at an obvious high level and have been exposed to good coaching ( on offensive and defensive techniques) whether it's at camps, clinics, school coaches or summer leagues, to be playing ball at LSU. I don't totally pardon the players, they obviously have their faults with lack of effort at times and bad communication. As a coach, if you're insinuating you need to direct their every move over midway through the season, you have a problem with how you're coaching because most of the contributing players have been in the system for a minimum of 2 years except for Watford. I'm not trying to say he's a bad coach either, I'm just saying if he can find a way to fix this, he can be a damn good coach and lead this team and future teams to places they may never have been before. Be willing to exhaust your options like coach O did and was able to seek out Joe Burrow and Joe Brady along with other hires ( assistants and analysts) with the advice from others. Look what the end result was.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93957 posts
Posted on 2/21/20 at 1:08 pm to
It almost seems like maybe we don't have any vocal leaders out on the floor and that's why the coaches are yelling out what to do. Hopefully the players get the message and the defense improves. Wade has been a winner at every stop so I guess we're just gonna have to trust for now that he can get that little bit of improvement to get us over the hump.
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