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Will Wade's excuse for poor defense in the second half of the Kentucky game
Posted on 2/20/20 at 9:12 am
Posted on 2/20/20 at 9:12 am
In the first half, the defense is in front of our bench, so as a coaching staff, we can do a lot of thinking for them. We can call it out, tell them what they’re doing, get them in right position, get them active. In the second half, the defense is away from our bench, so we can’t tell them everything that’s going on because it’s not in front of our bench. So in the second half we usually give up a ton of points. That’s where you have to have players step up and be able to do it.”
– Coach Will Wade
This is absolutely a BS excuse for them playing bad defense and if you are having to tell them where to be at at this point in the season, you haven't done your job teaching your concepts on defense. High schoolers aren't confused about what their role is on both sides of the court much less just on defense.
– Coach Will Wade
This is absolutely a BS excuse for them playing bad defense and if you are having to tell them where to be at at this point in the season, you haven't done your job teaching your concepts on defense. High schoolers aren't confused about what their role is on both sides of the court much less just on defense.
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Posted on 2/20/20 at 9:14 am to des4271
quote:Devils advocate: high schoolers play high school defenses against high school players playing high school offenses
High schoolers aren't confused about what their role is on both sides of the court much less just on defense.
Learned that in high school.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 9:15 am to des4271
BS, Kentucky missed a lot of open shots in the 1st half. They made them in the 2nd.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 9:16 am to des4271
Actually high schoolers are confused and that’s the point. Our team is extremely young and most probably aren’t used to executing real defense because they never had to in high school. If coaches cannot help them during the game it absolutely can be a disadvantage. Wade’s point is not that they don’t teach defense in practice. It’s that clearly the guys don’t all have it down well enough yet and he has to constantly adjust them during the game. Btw most high school coaches suck.
This post was edited on 2/20/20 at 9:19 am
Posted on 2/20/20 at 9:17 am to des4271
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High schoolers aren't confused about what their role is on both sides of the court much less just on defense.
You must not watch HS Basketball.
His statement doesn't imply an excuse, FYI.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 9:17 am to des4271
Or maybe they havent grasped the concepts as they should. You dont think wade deserves the benefit of the doubt on this?
Posted on 2/20/20 at 9:17 am to des4271
quote:
High schoolers aren't confused about what their role is on both sides of the court much less just on defense
You’re actually trying to suggest that high schoolers don’t get confused on assignments.......wow
It’s possible be critical of Wade without being a complete moron
Posted on 2/20/20 at 9:18 am to TriedandTrue
Sometimes you gotta let the bird fall to see if it can fly.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 9:19 am to beantown
Yea well isn’t that the point? They aren’t flying...
Posted on 2/20/20 at 9:20 am to des4271
I think at this point it is pretty clear there is a disconnect between what the coach's are teaching and what the players are understanding. There is "blame" to go around on both sides, but for RIGHT NOW what they are doing isn't working.
My hope is that this stretch has caused some reevaluation because (1) there is still time to make this are REALLY, REALLY good season and (2) this team isn't far off. They are playing terrible defense and YET still in every game. If they can somehow figure out a way to knock off 5-7 ppg on the defensive end they could realistically go undefeated down the stretch of SEC play. That's the equivalent of 2-4 made FG's per game.
My hope is that this stretch has caused some reevaluation because (1) there is still time to make this are REALLY, REALLY good season and (2) this team isn't far off. They are playing terrible defense and YET still in every game. If they can somehow figure out a way to knock off 5-7 ppg on the defensive end they could realistically go undefeated down the stretch of SEC play. That's the equivalent of 2-4 made FG's per game.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 9:21 am to des4271
WW obviously knows more basketball than me but I think they should press a little more. Speed the game up and not have to rely on positional defense as much. Seems like the team plays better when the game is sped up.
Although you'd probably have to go deeper than a 7 man rotation and that doesn't seem like something he likes to do.
Although you'd probably have to go deeper than a 7 man rotation and that doesn't seem like something he likes to do.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 9:22 am to jimbeam
Dude, you play man or zone with switches and rotations, it's not hard, I played, it is not that f##king difficult and it doesn't matter whether it's high school or college. Don't give me that lame shite.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 9:24 am to TriedandTrue
That's my point about not having it down, you obviously not doing a good job of conveying your strategies and concepts if you are still trying to tell them mid to late season what to do on defense.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 9:25 am to Golfer
I played it, we were not confused on what our job was whether we were playing man or zone.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 9:26 am to des4271
Having played for a good coach in high school, I saw first hand how long it took for players to grasp concepts. Some didn’t get it until their junior and senior years. That’s if you had a good coach. Most high school players don’t have good coaches and their learning actually begins in college. They have survived on athletic ability alone prior to this.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 9:27 am to des4271
quote:yep that’s totally it. Don’t have to add complexities to deal with offensive adjustments.
Dude, you play man or zone with switches and rotations
Posted on 2/20/20 at 9:27 am to TriedandTrue
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Yea well isn’t that the point? They aren’t flying...
Correct. They're playing experienced teams that are apt at exploiting unprepared or unskilled players like Watford. You can run through it 1000 times in practice, review film, etc. But nothing beats in-game experience.
Yes, a good bit of this is on Wade. Some on the players, as well. Look at football (for example) and the work that was reported they put in outside of practices to get to where they were this year.
Another thing I think Wade is having to adjust to is not having 4-year players. A freshman at VCU is going to be there 4 years and slowly growing into the college game. At LSU you're throwing them out on the court as starters on day 1. Yes the athletic ability is there from the beginning, but there's a whole lot more as we're discussing that goes into making a kid elite.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 9:27 am to KingofthePoint
I played the damn game, it's not confusing how to play defense whether it's man or zone.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 9:30 am to des4271
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I played it, we were not confused on what our job was whether we were playing man or zone.
Ah. It's that simple.
Posted on 2/20/20 at 9:31 am to Alt26
First logical reply, thanks for your post, I agree. It's just aggravating to see them struggle defensively when that extra effort ( whether in communication or physical) on that side of the court could change the outcome of the game.
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