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re: Why can every other first world country have healthcare for all?
Posted on 2/19/20 at 11:17 pm to SiloamHog
Posted on 2/19/20 at 11:17 pm to SiloamHog
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when I can stay and fight for what I believe is right? Or should everyone that disagrees with you should get out?
What do you feel is "right"?
Define "fight".
Define a "right" (the enumerated individual imperative as free from societal obligation or infringement as is separate from the notion of purity denoted above).
This post was edited on 2/19/20 at 11:20 pm
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Posted on 2/19/20 at 11:17 pm to Apollyon
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We vehemently disagree.
I figured as much. And it's fine with me that my opinion is in the minority on that among conservatives. I don't have to worry about it anyways because the Government already does provide me my healthcare.
At any rate, what we really need is a medical revolution. We need better medical technology. Which they do have. We just gotta figure a way to get them to come off of it.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 11:17 pm to SiloamHog
quote:Denmark, the Country Bernie used in his example tonight is. What Bernie failed to mention is that Denmark's population is smaller than the city of New York+ the surrounding areas.
The entirety of the first world is small and homogeneous
Also, have you ever seen the public hospitals in England or France? They're outdated and understaffed.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 11:18 pm to SiloamHog
“What is right?”
Dipshit. There’s no moral authority to compel you to pay for others’ care from a third party’s money. GTFO with that weak shite.
Dipshit. There’s no moral authority to compel you to pay for others’ care from a third party’s money. GTFO with that weak shite.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 11:18 pm to SiloamHog
Because they dont have all the entitlement handouts that we give. And their taxes are higher. And there arent enough docs to cover everyone. And a TON of other shite
Posted on 2/19/20 at 11:18 pm to BoarEd
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We need better medical technology. Which they do have.
Clown shoes.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 11:21 pm to BoarEd
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figured as much. And it's fine with me that my opinion is in the minority on that among conservatives. I don't have to worry about it anyways because the Government already does provide me my healthcare.
At any rate, what we really need is a medical revolution. We need better medical technology. Which they do have. We just gotta figure a way to get them to come off of it.
No. Examine your philosophy. Why have you the right to another's labor?
Posted on 2/19/20 at 11:21 pm to SiloamHog
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The entirety of the first world is small and homogeneous?
The individual countries are?
Posted on 2/19/20 at 11:21 pm to Bayou_Tiger_225
Sure Denmark is small. What about The UK, Germany, France, or the entirety of the EU? Hell, even Mexico, who we have to build a wall against has socialized healthcare.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 11:22 pm to BoarEd
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the Constitution only gave the federal government a handful of responsibilities and one of them was to provide for the general welfare of the public. In my opinion that can be read as medical care.
James Madison wrote the constitution. Why didn’t President Madison make it clear that “general welfare” meant medical care, and demand implementation of Madicare?
Posted on 2/19/20 at 11:23 pm to Apollyon
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No. Examine your philosophy.
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No.
No need to examine my philosophy. As I said, my care is already paid in full for life anyways. I don't really have a dog in this hunt.
I gave my opinion and you don't agree. And I'm okay with that.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 11:23 pm to SiloamHog
How’s that working out for them?
Posted on 2/19/20 at 11:23 pm to SiloamHog
I want to know why you have the right to the labor of another human being.
Not one political opponent can offer a reasonable and philosophically sound explanation for this weak tenet of pandering.
Not one political opponent can offer a reasonable and philosophically sound explanation for this weak tenet of pandering.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 11:24 pm to SiloamHog
Should one of Prince Williams kids develop cancer, you think they’re coming to St Jude or going through NHS?
Posted on 2/19/20 at 11:24 pm to the808bass
Paying for private insurance is literally paying for others healthcare. You're paying for those others with the same insurance company as you. Right? Why not pay for your fellow Americans insurance at no increase to you?
Posted on 2/19/20 at 11:25 pm to SiloamHog
What ailment have you been unable to treat?
Posted on 2/19/20 at 11:26 pm to SiloamHog
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Paying for private insurance is literally paying for others healthcare.
Me paying for private insurance is me voluntarily entering into an agreement which I view to be beneficial to me.
You’re too dumb for this conversation. Stick to the initial dumb question and then leave the thread.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 11:26 pm to SiloamHog
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Why can every other first world country have healthcare for all?
First of all, it’s breaking the bank and the effectiveness of the health care systems across the globe. Many countries are trying to figure out how to allocate finite health care resources without going bankrupt, and they are mostly doing it with wait times, denial of services for a growing number of health conditions, and a multi-tiered system where the wealthy still pay for private insurance (not too unlike what we have in this country).
Secondly, the U.S. is financing the research and development of the cutting edge medicines and methods which the rest of the world gets at a huge discount.
Thirdly, the U.S. is providing military security for the free world, which allows other countries to spend their money on universal health care.
Lastly, the U.S. is going into massive debt. It’s spending money on a huge government and some significant amount is sent to other countries. The world seems to be relying on the good credit of the U.S. All of this spending must eventually be accounted for. The credit card bill is going to come in the mail eventually.
Posted on 2/19/20 at 11:26 pm to BoarEd
Negative ghostrider, perhaps you refer to a "privilege" (VA healthcare).
Absolutely not a right to the labor of another.
We all need to understand that this is THE slippery slope of our time. I need not even go back one single generation to explain why (USSR).
Absolutely not a right to the labor of another.
We all need to understand that this is THE slippery slope of our time. I need not even go back one single generation to explain why (USSR).
Posted on 2/19/20 at 11:28 pm to SiloamHog
Your access to health is already far greater than those in these “1st” world countries you are talking about.
You have greater access and better care?
Why do you want to go backwards?
You have greater access and better care?
Why do you want to go backwards?
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