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re: Why do churches get so worked up over gays?

Posted on 2/17/20 at 11:09 am to
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 11:09 am to
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The loudest ones about it usually have the most vivid images of it when they’re denouncing it
and here's our old friend: there's nothing wrong with it -- unless you oppose it. Then it's something nasty you're to be accused of.

I admit, whoever thought up this argument is a freakin' genius.
Posted by Dawgwithnoname
NE Louisiana
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 11:11 am to
Because they refuse to acknowledge it is sin.

That is equivalent to standing with your fist to air yelling at God that we know better than He does.
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 11:12 am to
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I am saying homosexuality is a sin just like lots of other things are so why are those things just forgotten about so much?

My guess is that homosexuality grosses them out more or, in some cases, is the very thing they don’t want to admit about themselves.
Posted by PickupAutist
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 11:12 am to
Being drunk and a sodomite are definitely not on the same level. One calls for the death penalty and God rained literal hellfire on a whole city for it.

But I don’t see many churches preaching against it these days. Churches have become very watered down and love to cater to the world in an effort to fill the pews (it won’t).
This post was edited on 2/17/20 at 11:14 am
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 11:12 am to
The really short answer is a good church treats all mortal sins as sins.

Why you hear more about say chastity/gayness than drunkenness has to do with where we are as a society. Society has tried to tell us that being unchaste is not a sin. Society has not embraced drunkenness. The church fights fires by what are being most "promoted" in society sometimes, not because one sin is worse than the other.

Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 11:14 am to
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in some cases, is the very thing they don’t want to admit about themselves
yep, like hearing from an old friend
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 11:16 am to
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I am saying homosexuality is a sin just like lots of other things are so why are those things just forgotten about so much?


They're not "forgotten about so much"?

Homosex is being sold as good and normal and the others aren't?
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 11:16 am to
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The loudest ones about it usually have the most vivid images of it when they’re denouncing it.


How do you know this??
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 11:17 am to
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It is probably because they believe it is the only sin that they see as being put on a pedestal as good, wholesome, and worthy of promoting at every turn through movie, entertainment, and all other aspects of everyday life.


Kind of like heterosexual premarital sex? That is just as grave a sin as gay sex.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67196 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 11:17 am to
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rtaking in alcohol in moderation is not a sin but indulging to excess would be considered one.


Indulging in anything to excess is considered sinful. Where’s the specific condemnation for alcohol?
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
Member since Nov 2012
22926 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 11:17 am to
I feel like people attacking Christians have made this a bigger deal than any bible beaters have. Also, any raging alcoholic going on about homosexuality being a sin is a massive hypocrite. Hate the sin, love the sinner.
This post was edited on 2/17/20 at 11:18 am
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80364 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 11:19 am to
How do you know it’s not true, Socratic Dale?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 11:22 am to
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Gays and drunks are welcome in church.


But, don't expect the congregation to be waiving pom poms and cheering if the drunk is downing vodka or Steve is rooting Pete out during the service.

Love the sinner, hate the sin.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56663 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 11:23 am to
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Why is this certain sin treated like its worse than all the others?


...because the sinners suggest that it is impossible for them to live life without committing this sin...and have no intention of trying to live life without committing the sin.

Other than that, there is no differnce in the sin.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 11:23 am to
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Why is this certain sin treated like its worse than all the others? I love Christian values but I have never understood how someone can go get blasted drunk then scream about being gay being a sin. They are both sins as outlined in the bible. Don't use scripture to vilify others when you will ignore the parts of the scripture that vilify you.



Two things are true here:

1) Christians have put too much emphasis on making homosexuality the center of a fight/dispute that should be about much more than homosexuality. UMC literature talks about guns, government-guaranteed employment, etc. Churches have been systematically undermined for decades by those looking to use them as a platform for social advocacy. In other words, the war should be on Gospel-less religion, not merely homosexuality.

2) That said, homosexuality gets particular attention because there is a movement to ask the church to tolerate ongoing sin without exception, including promotion of those practicing said sin to positions of authority. More in line with #1, countless protestant (and Catholic) churches and clergies go well beyond this to where the church/faith is just a messaging device for their positions on gay/trans rights, etc. If someone is a seminary student or clergy and is more active in LGTB events than evangelism, they're merely using the faith for political ends.

There aren't a lot of businesses or even government jobs where one can make a life holding a sign and yelling and thinking deep thoughts about injustice. The church is however, and it's being abused by people who have little/no interest in the Great Commission.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 11:24 am to
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How do you know it’s not true, Socratic Dale?


The burden of proof is always on the claimant.
No one has to prove a negative.

Seriously...you don't know this??
Posted by oldtimefootball
Winnfield La
Member since Feb 2013
434 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 11:24 am to
Two people of the same sex that love each other is not sinful. Engaging in "UNNATURAL ACTS" is what the bible condemns. Live together, love each other but don't engage in unnatural sexual acts. Is this asking too much for gays and lesbians to do? The bible also teaches that unwed people should abstain from sexual activity.The catholic church requires priests and nuns to abstain from sexual activity. If gays and lesbians want approval from the Christian community or church membership, JESUS CHRIST requires repentance from sin. If you don't know what repentance means look it up.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
6462 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 11:24 am to
In my 38 years of church attendance, I have never once heard anything negative about gay persons. On the few occasions homosexuality has been mentioned at all it was brought up in the same context as adultery or sex out of marriage.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41723 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 11:25 am to
It isn’t simply the nature of the sin but the cultural push towards its acceptance. If there wasn’t such a desire to normalize homosexuality, it wouldn’t be such a prevalent topic in sermons.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80364 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 11:26 am to
Dale, did you know that I’ll never respond to you again without it being in the form of a question?
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