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re: LHSAA votes - how will it go?

Posted on 1/31/20 at 5:57 pm to
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 1/31/20 at 5:57 pm to
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Still have a lot in north Louisiana that hate private though
I bet the average number of students in their schools is like 200
Posted by GeauxColonels
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Posted on 1/31/20 at 6:56 pm to
Does the LHSAA actually release the voting results by school?
Posted by StanleyB
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Posted on 1/31/20 at 6:59 pm to
A rural public school could recruit for a 100 square mile area and not come close to the population pool of a large city.

Lafayette Parish has around 225,000 people. Sabine Parish has less 25,000. How will allowing everyone to recruit level the playing field in small classes?

I’m for 1 system. Lafayette Christians of the world prevent that from happening.
Posted by choupiquesushi
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Posted on 1/31/20 at 9:37 pm to
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votes - how will it go? by rt3
the LHSAA needs to die a quick, painful death


Member schools created this
Posted by RedPop4
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Posted on 1/31/20 at 10:45 pm to
Member principals, you mean, ir do you think more than a few ADs and coaches bear responsibility, as well?
Posted by whodat77
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Posted on 1/31/20 at 11:38 pm to
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Does the LHSAA actually release the voting results by school?


Yes, they publish this for every vote.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 1/31/20 at 11:51 pm to
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Yes, they publish this for every vote.
frick the small class schools in North and Central LA
Posted by JJ27
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Posted on 2/1/20 at 12:45 am to
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5 classes IS too much, for publics in LA
4 divisions IS too much, for privates in LA



It’s even worse in every other sport outside of football. There are teams that have byes to the state tournament in basketball and baseball. It’s just asinine and needs to be fixed.
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 2/1/20 at 12:57 am to
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Even if my team loses, I’d prefer losing badly against the best than win against weak competition



You say that until you're a rural public school that winds up in the same district as an Evangel in its heyday. Your season is irrelevant before it starts and the best you can hope for is a moral victory by staying within five touchdowns. Or you have your best tean in 20 years and get blown out by John Curtis in the second round of the playoffs.

Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 2/1/20 at 1:02 am to
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you're a rural public school that winds up in the same district as an Evangel in its heyday. Your season is irrelevant before it starts and the best you can hope for is a moral victory by staying within five touchdowns. Or you have your best tean in 20 years and get blown out by John Curtis in the second round of the playoffs.

let’s say your rural school was 1A. That would probably happen if it was Haynesville in your district as well as Evangel

And if your best team in 20 years makes it just to round 2, that says a lot. It isn’t John Curtis holding them back
Posted by ProfFrink
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Posted on 2/1/20 at 1:08 am to
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ou say that until you're a rural public school that winds up in the same district as an Evangel in its heyday. Your season is irrelevant before it starts and the best you can hope for is a moral victory by staying within five touchdowns. Or you have your best tean in 20 years and get blown out by John Curtis in the second round of the playoffs.


Already coached against Curtis and Evangel with public schools. I enjoyed the challenge. If my best team in 20 years isn’t good enough to best and we get blown out I can live with that.

My teams played hard. All I can ask.

I would never ask for a team to get kicked out so we could win an easy state title. Thats cowardly
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 2/1/20 at 1:23 am to
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.. but yes same for kids in other parishes/places.. many/winnfield but within the parish.



Nah it’s not the same moving between different parishes as opposed to two different schools in the same school district (not parish)

Btw, speaking of this rule, under no circumstances should a kid living in another state be eligible at any LHSAA school
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 2/1/20 at 7:36 am to
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Although it wasn’t a big or controversial vote, does anyone have any insight about why the proposal letting principals send a delegate for them failed? I can’t even come up with an argument against that.


The argument against it was there already exist an emergency designee provision that a principal can use under certain circumstances and if this were to pass, the convention would probably be more ADs than principals which hurts the notion that the LHSAA is a principal organization.

Mr. Bundy spoke against it before the vote and I think it swayed a lot of voters.
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 2/1/20 at 9:24 am to
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5 classes IS too much, for publics in LA
4 divisions IS too much, for privates in LA

The actual fix is to drop from 5 public classifications to 4 & from 4 divisions to 2.

That forces everyone to make a choice regarding how they want to progress or regress their school size + focus on or off of athletics.

I was talking about before the split... even then 5 classes was 1 too many
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 2/1/20 at 10:34 am to
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Yes, they publish this for every vote.
frick the small class schools in North and Central


Owl you are better than this...... they don’t say frick the New Orleans schools that couldn’t deal e JC and ECA and sent them down to run roughshod on us.... they just say never again
Posted by TROLA
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Posted on 2/1/20 at 10:39 am to
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Btw, speaking of this rule, under no circumstances should a kid living in another state be eligible at any LHSAA school


Public but not private. Plenty of border kids go to private schools and vast majority aren’t for athletics
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 2/1/20 at 10:41 am to
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Public but not private. Plenty of border kids go to private schools and vast majority aren’t for athletics




Plenty in la go to schools in MS
Too. Let em play
Posted by whodat77
Member since Jul 2019
139 posts
Posted on 2/1/20 at 10:51 am to
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if this were to pass, the convention would probably be more ADs than principals which hurts the notion that the LHSAA is a principal organization.


Makes sense, just seems like at a lot of schools the AD is really in a better position to make these decisions, And if the principal has other things that need to be attended to which don’t necessarily count as an “emergency” then the result is you have some schools not represented at all.
Posted by whodat77
Member since Jul 2019
139 posts
Posted on 2/1/20 at 10:57 am to
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I would never ask for a team to get kicked out so we could win an easy state title. Thats cowardly


Agree. Don’t know where you coach but they’re lucky to have you.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 2/1/20 at 11:35 am to
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And if your best team in 20 years makes it just to round 2, that says a lot. It isn’t John Curtis holding them back


To me it says that a traditional public just happened to get lucky by having a top quality athlete or two at the same time.

Success at ANY level is primarily predicated on the Jimmies and Joes, not the X's and O's. I don't get suggesting otherwise. That isn't to dismiss the influence of coaching (it is a difference maker between similarly athletic teams
through fundamentals, player positioning, scheme etc.). But to compare some rural school to a football factory like Curtis as though they are on equal footing is disingenuous imho.
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