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re: JJ Redick “mentoring” NAW
Posted on 1/19/20 at 12:52 pm to Soggymoss
Posted on 1/19/20 at 12:52 pm to Soggymoss
I literally started a thread last night talking up Lonzo’s value to our team so it’s not all negative. I’m realistic. You new fans haven’t seen enough disappointing Pels seasons over and over and over
Posted on 1/19/20 at 12:57 pm to Upperdecker
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Yea the whole pregame thing was bad press
Except he literally commended NAW for not being like the players he was talking about
Posted on 1/19/20 at 12:58 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Yes he commended NAW. Pretty clear he’s still throwing shade though
Posted on 1/19/20 at 1:52 pm to Upperdecker
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Yea the whole pregame thing was bad press
you are way overreacting to this.
First, the highest profile tweet about this is from ESPN. It has 53,000 likes.
LINK
Here's an article from NBC Sports about Bradley Beal doing his own Get Off My Lawn rant. They point out how he replied to the tweet I mentioned above with a very emphatic "FACTUAL!!!"
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CBS Sports had a pretty matter of fact take on it and point out how social media wasn't as big of a thing when JJ came into the league.
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Bleacher report went even more in depth and referenced an interview Redick did with Tom Haberstroh about a month ago.
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Haberstroh built off those comments when further explaining Redick's stance:
"To be clear, Redick isn't judging his teammates' use of social media and doesn't want to be the locker room grump by any means. He's at a different stage of his life and claims he's played in much more phone-crazed locker rooms before. He looks around the league and sees an NBA that is full of players increasingly locked into their devices. On the bus, on the plane, on the trainer's table, at the locker, at the dinner table—the phone is inescapable.
"In many ways, the league's love of social media is understandable. It offers athletes a sense of control over the messaging, a slice of ownership over their public image. It can open doors and entertain the masses. But how much is too much?"
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There's a lot of replies to the tweet I referenced at the top so I can't tell you what every random person on twitter said, but the most common sentiment of the ones I glanced at seemed to use the tweet as an opportunity to take a shot at fashion icon Kyle Kuzma.
The reaction is actually a lot more positive than I was expecting. Normally Get Off My Lawn rants are quickly dismissed with Old Man Yells At Sky memes. If you think this is playing out negatively for the Pels you must be locked in a deep dark part of the twitterverse. It doesn't even look like it's playing all that negatively for Redick, Kuzma seems to be the one taking collateral damage here.
Posted on 1/19/20 at 2:08 pm to TigerinATL
It really seems like he's not even talking about anyone on the current team, he just said that about the league as a whole.
This team as constructed is filled with hard working guys, there's quite a few he's been on before that wasn't
This team as constructed is filled with hard working guys, there's quite a few he's been on before that wasn't
Posted on 1/19/20 at 3:12 pm to Upperdecker
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Pretty clear he’s still throwing shade though
At our players? He wasn't lol
Posted on 1/19/20 at 6:35 pm to Upperdecker
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pregame thing was bad press
No. If anything, it was good. It clearly wasn't negative towards the Pels.
Posted on 1/19/20 at 7:51 pm to cgrand
Love NAW, but I hesitate at the thought of primary ball handler.
Posted on 1/19/20 at 8:55 pm to VOR
Right now he’s like Jrue, a 2 that can handle the ball. He doesn’t see the whole floor.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 10:06 am to Pistol44
To suggest that JJ cannot be a great mentor or otherwise is asinine. Mentoring is not just helping a player to develop their skills. Mentoring, as others have stated, is assisting in developing anything on or off the court which allows a young player to be a better professional.
With that, I would expect JJ's mentoring is not only helping a player perfect a consistent jumper, which he would be more qualified to teach than 97% of league (including coaches), but also how to read and react to screens, defenses and how to operate within an offense when a defense gameplans and targets you in an effort to limit your strengths.
Also, mentoring is teaching good practice habits, routines, eating regiment, and probably MOST IMPORTANTLY, how to MENTALLY approach the game.
This fact, is where I believe NAW and the other young players will benefit the most. JJ has a certain makeup that he has developed over the course of his career that wasnt there in college.
Im a Dukie, since 89... In college JJ would get flustered and frustrated once he realized a defender could keep up with him running around multiple screens all over the court. Also, he didnt even bother to play real defense in college bc I assumed he thought he couldnt guard better players and that wasnt his role on a team. Plus, he would press more when his shot wasnt falling early.
Now, JJ has a tougher mentality in all respects. He fights thru his shooting woes, his confidence has evolved into KNOWING that there is no defense that can limit his shooting prowess.. He plays tough defense to the best of his abilities and has success more often than not. He has worked on his game to become more than just a shooter. Hell JJ tries to get rebounds when he can. His mentality now is far different than when in college. I used to view him as someone who thought of himself as an arrogant elitist who thought he should be a star bc of his exceptional shooting. Now, I see a tough minded veteran who has worked to be more of an team player and does what he can towards team success and not worried about being "seen" as the reason for a team's success.
Such a mental transformation is what JJ can teach young players. Most all of these players were the go to "star" on their teams prior to the NBA. Developing a positive mentality to be a "role player" takes time and is hard for some players to accept (i.e. Dion Waiters). JJ will help in that regard by leading by example. JJ knows the team success is incumbent upon Zion being the star and everyone else falls in line. Helping NAW or anyone else realize that fact and overcoming adversity when times are difficult is his greatest asset to the team besides knocking down shots...
With that, I would expect JJ's mentoring is not only helping a player perfect a consistent jumper, which he would be more qualified to teach than 97% of league (including coaches), but also how to read and react to screens, defenses and how to operate within an offense when a defense gameplans and targets you in an effort to limit your strengths.
Also, mentoring is teaching good practice habits, routines, eating regiment, and probably MOST IMPORTANTLY, how to MENTALLY approach the game.
This fact, is where I believe NAW and the other young players will benefit the most. JJ has a certain makeup that he has developed over the course of his career that wasnt there in college.
Im a Dukie, since 89... In college JJ would get flustered and frustrated once he realized a defender could keep up with him running around multiple screens all over the court. Also, he didnt even bother to play real defense in college bc I assumed he thought he couldnt guard better players and that wasnt his role on a team. Plus, he would press more when his shot wasnt falling early.
Now, JJ has a tougher mentality in all respects. He fights thru his shooting woes, his confidence has evolved into KNOWING that there is no defense that can limit his shooting prowess.. He plays tough defense to the best of his abilities and has success more often than not. He has worked on his game to become more than just a shooter. Hell JJ tries to get rebounds when he can. His mentality now is far different than when in college. I used to view him as someone who thought of himself as an arrogant elitist who thought he should be a star bc of his exceptional shooting. Now, I see a tough minded veteran who has worked to be more of an team player and does what he can towards team success and not worried about being "seen" as the reason for a team's success.
Such a mental transformation is what JJ can teach young players. Most all of these players were the go to "star" on their teams prior to the NBA. Developing a positive mentality to be a "role player" takes time and is hard for some players to accept (i.e. Dion Waiters). JJ will help in that regard by leading by example. JJ knows the team success is incumbent upon Zion being the star and everyone else falls in line. Helping NAW or anyone else realize that fact and overcoming adversity when times are difficult is his greatest asset to the team besides knocking down shots...
Posted on 1/20/20 at 11:01 am to Upperdecker
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Most players won’t benefit enough from focusing entirely on one skill like JJ
Dude mentors don’t only teach people what they’re physically good at, veteran presence is more helpful as a mental thing. Tim Duncan can mentor a point guard just like Steve Nash can mentor a power forward
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