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Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:15 am to TDsngumbo
quote:conservitive right up until it affects their handouts
You're gonna piss off all the faux conservatives here
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:15 am to Bedhog
We're giving college kids money. What percent of college kids will smoke weed and/or drink alcohol? Maybe 90%. So the state is subsidizing marijuana and alcohol. Time to end it. Let's spend that money subsidizing those of us who have to pay for private K-12.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:16 am to Bedhog
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You can't be against frivolous welfare handouts and in the same breath accept this handout.
Are you going to root out all of the subsidies and handouts that go to cronies of politicians through special legislation and other nefarious means?
If not, then leave TOPS, a good program, alone.
There is so much corporate welfare out there it's disgusting. So to go after a single discrete program that helps many people is a fool's adventure.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:16 am to Bedhog
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It's a very low standard and as I said, graduates are spending our money and going elsewhere.
Why not just raise the standard then?
And it’s not TOPS fault that grads leave the state. That’s a structural issue with Louisiana’s economy. GA has a similar program (HOPE). They also have lots of new jobs for grads, so kids that go to UGA, Tech, Kennesaw etc more often stay here. That’s the problem that needs to be solved in LA.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:17 am to Bedhog
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conservitive right up until it affects their handouts
It’s quite the conundrum. It needs to be done away with. If not outright done away with, the requirements need to be raised. If you drop out, you have to pay it all back. If you move out of state 5-10 years post graduation, you have to pay it back.
If you use it, get your degree and stay in Louisiana, then fine. Whatever. I disagree with the program entirely, but I’m willing to meet in the middle by enacting these small changes.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:17 am to beerJeep
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Everyone pays into it. Special few get to use it?
By that logic, the GI Bill is welfare.
Good luck telling a vet that his benefits were a handout.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:17 am to Demshoes
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There is so much corporate welfare out there it's disgusting.
^This x1000000000
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:17 am to civiltiger07
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:18 am to DVinBR
Here's my problem with TOPS. Sure it pays for tuition, but now the universities add fees that add up to what tuition used to be. So basically, they're getting the double the money they used to get. 1/2 comes from the state and 1/2 comes from the students or their parents.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:18 am to Bedhog
#43
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:18 am to Bedhog
Yeah, let's not address
quote:that part of it.
graduates are going elsewhere
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:18 am to OysterPoBoy
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Time to end it. Let's spend that money subsidizing those of us who have to pay for private K-12.
Yeah, private school kids in 9-12 don't drink alcohol and smoke weed lol lol.
And what about the medical, engineering, or any other students who drink, smoke a little weed, graduate with a good GPA and go on to be taxpaying productive citizens? Get rid of TOPS because they smoke a little weed?
Candidate for the worst argument of the year.
This post was edited on 1/15/20 at 10:20 am
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:18 am to Bedhog
quote:I guess this one's on me for thinking someone proposing to abolish TOPS would be capable of interpreting very unsubtle satire
you are ok with an un educated society?
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:18 am to beerJeep
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It’s quite the conundrum. It needs to be done away with. If not outright done away with, the requirements need to be raised. If you drop out, you have to pay it all back. If you move out of state 5-10 years post graduation, you have to pay it back.
If you use it, get your degree and stay in Louisiana, then fine. Whatever. I disagree with the program entirely, but I’m willing to meet in the middle by enacting these small changes.
I concur
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:19 am to Bedhog
Do away with?
No
Raise requirements significantly?
Yes
No
Raise requirements significantly?
Yes
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:19 am to Bedhog
quote:
conservitive right up until it affects their handouts
EXACTLY!
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:19 am to Bedhog
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I know plenty of families with kids who received TOPS money and they are very well off and will also bitch about food stamps and section 8 money.
I don't consider myself "very well off" but I'm very comfortable and very thankful for TOPS. If Louisiana wants college grads to stay home, maybe we should fix the problems causing them to leave.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:20 am to Demshoes
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Yeah, private school kids in 9-12 don't drink alcohol and smoke week lol lol.
Ok, K-8 then.
Maybe we could start out paying for kids in K-2 and raise it up one every year. I'd be ok with that.
Posted on 1/15/20 at 10:20 am to Bedhog
quote:At a minimum, the requirements for it should be higher than they are. It makes no sense that they are as low as they are.
Time for Louisiana to do away with TOPS
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