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If JJ Abrams had brought the Emperor back in his first movie
Posted on 12/22/19 at 11:38 pm
Posted on 12/22/19 at 11:38 pm
and basically done the same plot much suffering could have been averted. We could have had two much better movies combined with an honorable farewell to beloved cast members.
ROS isn't a bad movie. Face it. Star Wars has been in a spiral since Lucas sold out and gave us the Ewoks. ROS is probably the best movie since then. But when you think of all that has been wasted and what could have been it does make one sick. Even some of the novels would have been better as adaptations.
ROS isn't a bad movie. Face it. Star Wars has been in a spiral since Lucas sold out and gave us the Ewoks. ROS is probably the best movie since then. But when you think of all that has been wasted and what could have been it does make one sick. Even some of the novels would have been better as adaptations.
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Posted on 12/22/19 at 11:43 pm to BaDoing
quote:Rian would have killed him off in some absurdly pathetic manner.
If JJ Abrams had brought the Emperor back in his first movie
See: Jedi, The Last
Posted on 12/22/19 at 11:51 pm to Roaad
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Rian would have killed him off in some absurdly pathetic manner.
Palpatine tries to Force lightning Rey, but he kills himself after Finn's leaking medical suit covers the floor in liquid.
And, scene.
Posted on 12/23/19 at 12:26 am to BaDoing
If they'd have done that at least it could have been consistent
Posted on 12/23/19 at 2:27 am to BaDoing
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ROS is probably the best movie since then.
Rogue One exists. Also, ROTS and TFA weren’t horrible. And fans would be mad if you bring back the emperor from the get go for the new trilogy because it basically negates the last 6 movies.
Posted on 12/23/19 at 3:30 am to red sox fan 13
How does bringing him back now not negate those 6 movies?
Posted on 12/23/19 at 6:12 am to LuckyTiger
How does bringing him back now negate those movies? He fell . Why wouldn't a super powerful force user not be able to force push himself to safety?
Posted on 12/23/19 at 6:21 am to LuckyTiger
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How does bringing him back now not negate those 6 movies?
Spoilers below?
Because those 6 movies centered around Anakin and his ultimate redemption story through Luke to bring balance to the force by killing the emperor and sacrificing himself. So it was all for naught. Anakin is largely ignored in the sequel trilogy except for a throwaway line when all the past Jedi are “inspiring” Rey about her balancing the force as he did before. But here’s the kicker... now he didn’t really balance it.
I can only imagine the plethora of EU this would have also negated had it remained canon.
This post was edited on 12/23/19 at 8:37 am
Posted on 12/23/19 at 6:28 am to tenderfoot tigah
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How does bringing him back now negate those movies? He fell . Why wouldn't a super powerful force user not be able to force push himself to safety?
They just need a crutch to stand on to claim they didn’t like the movie and it ruined their childhood.
There’s absolutely nothing wrong with bringing him back.
Posted on 12/23/19 at 7:44 am to CP3forMVP
Everyone’s got an a-hole and an opinion that smells like shite. Such as yours.
Posted on 12/23/19 at 7:47 am to CP3forMVP
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There’s absolutely nothing wrong with bringing him back.
That's an okay opinion to have, I guess...if you're stupid.
Posted on 12/23/19 at 7:50 am to BaDoing
Emperor should have stayed dead and bringing him back in TFA might have been worse overall than what we got.
Better choice would have been to explore and develop Snoke as a new big bad and give us an excellent arc with Kylo and Rey.
Better choice would have been to explore and develop Snoke as a new big bad and give us an excellent arc with Kylo and Rey.
Posted on 12/23/19 at 10:53 am to tenderfoot tigah
quote:It renders Anakin's ad Luke's sacrifices in those movies pointless.
How does bringing him back now negate those movies?
They didn't kill the Emperor. The Emperor won, basically.
Posted on 12/23/19 at 10:54 am to StringedInstruments
quote:This. This was the first thing Rian ruined.
Better choice would have been to explore and develop Snoke as a new big bad and give us an excellent arc with Kylo and Rey.
And likely what sent JJ scrambling for a new big bad.
Posted on 12/23/19 at 11:10 am to StringedInstruments
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Better choice would have been to explore and develop Snoke as a new big bad and give us an excellent arc with Kylo and Rey.
Do we know that wasn't the original intention before Johnson killed him off with no explanation of his origins or plan?
Posted on 12/23/19 at 11:18 am to Athos
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Everyone’s got an a-hole and an opinion that smells like shite. Such as yours.
It’s not an opinion when you determined you weren’t gonna like something two years before it even exists. I’m not sure what that’s called, being inexorable I guess, but it’s definitely not an opinion.
Posted on 12/23/19 at 11:20 am to StringedInstruments
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Better choice would have been to explore and develop Snoke as a new big bad and give us an excellent arc with Kylo and Rey.
A better choice would have been to tell a new and interesting story. Abrams fricked up the ST right out of the gate.
Posted on 12/23/19 at 1:44 pm to BaDoing
BTW, nice spoiler in your thread title. 
Posted on 12/23/19 at 1:53 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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A better choice would have been to tell a new and interesting story. Abrams fricked up the ST right out of the gate.
This is an excellent point that many simply ignore. Last Jedi was terrible but retrospectively fixing it to try to save the trilogy is a false dilemma.
Posted on 12/23/19 at 2:02 pm to southdowns84
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This is an excellent point that many simply ignore. Last Jedi was terrible but retrospectively fixing it to try to save the trilogy is a false dilemma.
Pretty much this. They are all bad movies in their own ways. TFA probably the least bad bc it did at least introduce a solid new generation of characters (that were then promptly wasted).
Skywalker gets somewhat of a pass because it had nothing to work with and doesn’t hate the source material, but it’s about as bland/dumb as it gets outside of Driver.
They should have done something without a “new” empire as the bad guys. Give the new series it’s own feel, but they were so gun shy after the prequels they didn’t have the balls to really think outside the box.
This post was edited on 12/23/19 at 2:05 pm
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