TLJ wasn’t as bad as people make it out to be

True, it was much, much worse.

I tried watching it again recently. It's actually worse than many people make it out to be.

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if they would not have trashed Luke the way they did IMO it would have been an ok movie

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Maybe if they cut the 35 minute casino scene that’s pointless and didn’t grant Leia force power randomly it maybe could have been decent.

I walked out of that theater shocked at how they managed to screw it so bad lmao.

I like basically everything, even bad movies if they are entertaining.

TLJ was bad and not entertaining. It had really forced scenes that made no sense and felt disconnected to the story. I had a hard time finishing it.

This coming from a guy that watched the entire Green Lantern movie with Ryan Reynolds because I was bored the other night

I have no idea if it is as bad as people are making it out to be. I have yet to see it. they lost me at TFA, it became painfully obvious the machine had taken over.

It was worse. Much much worse.

There’s chunks of good. Cutting out the casino scene would go a long way

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I’m not saying it wasn’t bad. But if they would not have trashed Luke the way they did IMO it would have been an ok movie.

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Absolutely not.

It starts off with one space ship dropping bombs on another. In space. I can live with their being some crazy, advanced tech that keeps atmosphere inside ships but allows other ships to pass through, but to completely remove gravity from space is going too far.

Then we have every male character being a fricking moron and needing to be saved by a female character. Every. fricking. One. If roles were reversed on that there would be feminists sky-screaming until their perms fell out. This even went to the point of bringing in a never-before introduced female office who valiantly goes down with her ship in a way normally afforded to only well-established characters.

Then we have the absolute waste of time that was the casino run. They spent ~20% of the movie's time having two characters go out on a mission that was actually useless other than to say "horse-racing is bad, rich people are bad and rich people who race horses are the worst".

Now we get to the Asian chick whose character and acting were both so horrible that I purposely refuse to find out either her or her character's names. I can only believe she won some sort of contest or saved the life of someone high up at Disney to get such a part in a Star Wars movie when she has acting skills that would make her questionable just to be a stand-in in a 7th grade Christmas play.

But wait, there's more! We have the utterly useless setup of Rey going into the cave with all the reflections that accomplished... nothing. It was a shorter and less preachy but it was just as big a waste of time as the casino run.

And then there's Luke. They could have used the wasted time spent on Spelunker Rey or Casino Bore-yal to give his change of attitude more depth, to help bring the audience along. Instead they rushed it, ham-fisting it into the story like a drunk with at half-mast trying to get into a hooker. It was ugly, messy and completely unsatisfying.

There's more but they are small annoyances compared to these glaring examples of true fricktardery in storytelling.

I liked it more than TFA. At least it was original.

It’s not great and it’s not terrible. It’s just okay.

Which is really the worst thing a Star Wars film can be.