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Who sets foreign policy?
Posted on 12/9/19 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 12/9/19 at 3:37 pm
The president or career bureaucrats?
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Posted on 12/9/19 at 3:37 pm to GumboPot
The president
Posted on 12/9/19 at 3:38 pm to GumboPot
Democrats.
Now shut up and listen to your betters peasant.
Now shut up and listen to your betters peasant.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 3:38 pm to jmarto1
But Mr. Goldman and Nadler think the career bureaucrats set foreign policy.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 3:38 pm to GumboPot
A lieutenant colonel.
Duh
Duh
Posted on 12/9/19 at 3:40 pm to GumboPot
Article I gets no love. 
Posted on 12/9/19 at 3:40 pm to GumboPot
Who runs Bartertown? MasterTrump.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 3:42 pm to GumboPot
I don't know why the republicans aren't hammering this point home. They keep trying to differentiate between what Biden did and what Trump did by saying Biden did it in accordance with US foreign policy and Trump did it not in accordance with US foreign policy...but if the President sets US foreign policy, then it is by definition in accordance with US foreign policy. Right?
Posted on 12/9/19 at 3:43 pm to GumboPot
Technically, the voters of the winning Presidential candidate approve the foreign policy platform, and the President implements that mandate.
This post was edited on 12/9/19 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 12/9/19 at 3:44 pm to GumboPot
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But Mr. Goldman and Nadler think the career bureaucrats set foreign policy.
I can’t believe no one is calling this out.
They should say, “if in the middle of a meeting, the president decided to completely ditch existing policy and make up a new policy and direction on the spot - would it be within his power to do so?”
Posted on 12/9/19 at 3:50 pm to GumboPot
The President.
So why didn’t he run his Ukraine scheme through normal channels.
The bureaucrats have to follow his orders unless his motives are corrupt. In which case you need Rudy and Lev to run the show.
So why didn’t he run his Ukraine scheme through normal channels.
The bureaucrats have to follow his orders unless his motives are corrupt. In which case you need Rudy and Lev to run the show.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 3:51 pm to When in Rome
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but if the President sets US foreign policy, then it is by definition in accordance with US foreign policy. Right?
Not really exactly how it works.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 3:56 pm to When in Rome
quote:
I don't know why the republicans aren't hammering this point home. They keep trying to differentiate between what Biden did and what Trump did by saying Biden did it in accordance with US foreign policy and Trump did it not in accordance with US foreign policy...but if the President sets US foreign policy, then it is by definition in accordance with US foreign policy. Right?
Well, exactly.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 3:57 pm to GumboPot
Dat Gumbo man ain't nebber heard of tha Impoundment Act.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 4:01 pm to TigerDoc
I can assure you Trump knew of it though. How would one square that with any argument that Trump was prepared to indefinitely withhold the aid while also being unprepared to present an argument as to why.
This post was edited on 12/9/19 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 12/9/19 at 4:01 pm to GumboPot
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But Mr. Goldman and Nadler think the career bureaucrats set foreign policy.
They don't think it they know it. The Founding Fathers told them so.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 4:01 pm to TigerDoc
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Dat Gumbo man ain't nebber heard of tha Impoundment Act.
But that is not what Mr. Goldman and Nadler are arguing.
The Ukraine got their aid. IN TIME. According to Congress.
The Impoiundment Act does not apply.
They are just mad because Trump bought Javelins from Raytheon. Trump spent the money before the bureaucrats in the US embassy in Ukraine could spend it on their NGO buddies. That's why they are mad.
Why do you support this kind of corruption?
Posted on 12/9/19 at 4:02 pm to samiam5211
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scheme
DU received the DNC talking points.
The party of menstruating men members repeat said points. It’s hilarious.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 4:04 pm to TigerDoc
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Dat Gumbo man ain't nebber heard of tha Impoundment Act.
Joke??
Posted on 12/9/19 at 4:06 pm to samiam5211
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So why didn’t he run his Ukraine scheme through normal channels.
Because normal channels are corrupt.
Normal corrupt channel:
Tax Payer>Ukraine Foreign Aid>US Embassy in Ukraine>Payments to the Atlantic Council and other NGOs>Payments to DC politicians
Proper channel:
Tax Payer>Ukraine Foreign Aid>Raytheon for Ukrainian Javelins
DC is pissed Trump went through the proper channel. It was supposed to be their money.
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