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re: Tucker’s Segment on Paul Singer and Sidney,NE

Posted on 12/4/19 at 12:10 am to
Posted by Samso
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/4/19 at 12:10 am to
Paul Singer is a killer. What he pulled off in the Argentina sovereign debt deal is legendary.

His firm seized one of Argentina’s naval vessels as collateral
This post was edited on 12/4/19 at 12:11 am
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 12:26 am to
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Hedge funds are all run by lunatics that have no regard for anything but money. Them and the massive PE firms like Blackstone are pushing people into the arms of socialism by the thousands every day. We need to stop them before it's too late.


One of the people they interviewed said it best and I’ll repeat it roughly the same according to the subtitles.

“For people like Paul Singer, money is their God and it is all they care about in life and don’t give a damn who they hurt chasing every last dollar and it takes a truly sick and diseased mind to act like they do.”

And I agree with it. Greed is an ugly, revolting and disgusting thing and it’s no accident as to why Christianity along with other major religions list greed as one of the biggest sins.

Greed is an insult to God and in my opinion a good reason to deny a place in Heaven.
This post was edited on 12/4/19 at 12:36 am
Posted by TheXman
Middle America
Member since Feb 2017
2976 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:04 am to
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Greed is an ugly, revolting and disgusting thing and it’s no accident as to why Christianity along with other major religions list greed as one of the biggest sins.



Jews (Singer) certainly don't frown on exorbitant greed like Christians do.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55558 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:12 am to
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Greed is an insult to God and in my opinion a good reason to deny a place in Heaven.



Man can not serve both Mammon and God.

That is not to say, of course, that wealth is inherently bad, or the pursuit of profit. It is placing these very useful things and drives above all else that creates broken, hungry men in more ways than one.
This post was edited on 12/4/19 at 1:15 am
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 2:11 am to
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Jews (Singer) certainly don't frown on exorbitant greed like Christians do.


Riiiight.

What a load of crap.
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
52037 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 7:38 am to
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the never-ending pursuit of shareholder returns


Management was one of my Minors and I argued constantly with my proffs about the core philosophy (management should seek to maximize shareholder wealth) being too generalized. This lack of framework in the philosophical foundation leads many in management to take the lazy track: generate more wealth by cutting as many corners as possible, right up to the point where it impacts sales.

From little things that help keep up employee moral up that management is often quick to go after (like free coffee in the break room, decent toilet paper in the bathrooms, etc) to lowering the quality (using a cheaper plastic that's more brittle, for example), management types who are nothing more than short-sighted bean counters are the types who end up taking a solid company and screwing it up. They make money while the company falters.
Posted by JPinLondon
not in London (currently NW Ohio)
Member since Nov 2006
7855 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 8:34 pm to
Part Two was on tonight.

Ben Sasse released a rather weak response on the story; Tucker went into it, with a guest.


Article regarding last night:
TUCKER: Hedge Fund Managers Like Ben Sasse Donor Paul Singer Are Destroying Middle America
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
30362 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 10:23 pm to
Wow, I hadn't heard of any of this. I noticed that Bass Pro now owns Cabelas, but I never knew any of the backstory.

I can't say more because it concerns my own job and online post are forever and can be damaging, but I'm currently seeing the effects of corporations merging first hand and the effect on the surrounding community. The effect is rippling....
Posted by dovehunter
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
1272 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 10:32 pm to
Took a lot of management courses at LSU. Usually got in a disagreement with the professors. Having worked for a major corporation and then running my own company what I see is that larger corporations manage quarter to quarter and are slaves to quarterly earnings. A smaller company will take a longer view, at least i do and then try and balance the company so that we are fair to all. We try to take into consideration our customers, our employees, our vendors and our community. Balancing those 4 aspects of our business responsibility has given us results far exceeding my expectations.

I get the obligation the company has to the shareholders but there are additional obligations which should, from an ethical and moral standpoint be addressed. In the long run I think this is the best approach. Balance and fair to all is our motto.
Posted by corneredbeast
02134
Member since Sep 2008
2164 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 12:07 am to
Capitalism must operate within a moral framework, but that framework has been deliberately assaulted by leftists for the last 100 years.
Posted by SlackMaster
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
2663 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 7:33 am to
I agree with your general point about short-sighted profit making, but...
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They make money while the company falters.

... is NOT maximizing shareholder value.
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