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How many more games until Zion returns?
Posted on 11/30/19 at 9:51 am
Posted on 11/30/19 at 9:51 am
We are so close to beating some of these teams but need one more superstar.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 9:53 am to FightingTigers1
I’m looking at 12/15 so I say 7.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 10:01 am to Fun Bunch
People are putting way too much stock in the "we would have beaten 'em if" rant. The Pelicans are a young team. They'll play good teams on the back end of a road trip (like the Lakers Wednesday night) tough. Lose to sub .500 teams. That's what young teams do. They aren't going to come within 15 points of a rested upper echelon team at home much less on the road.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 10:02 am to Fun Bunch
Yep, if I were to put money on it it would be on 12/15 against Orlando
If I had to guess we will probably see him start to practice this week
If I had to guess we will probably see him start to practice this week
Posted on 11/30/19 at 10:04 am to Kenja
You underestimate how much Zion's presence will open everything up for everyone else, especially at the end of games. Teams wont be able to defensively crowd the 3 pt line against us like OKC did, because Zion will poster the poor sap they leave inside
I'd put us at having at least 5 more wins if we had a healthy Zion
I'd put us at having at least 5 more wins if we had a healthy Zion
Posted on 11/30/19 at 10:18 am to Soggymoss
I mean, we'd have won the last two games if we had just had Derrick Favors.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 10:28 am to GOP_Tiger
Exactly...
This is why I don't see why there are so many doom and gloom posters. I guess they just had their expectations too high, even after Zion's injury
This is why I don't see why there are so many doom and gloom posters. I guess they just had their expectations too high, even after Zion's injury
Posted on 11/30/19 at 10:30 am to Soggymoss
When Zion and Favors are back and the schedule goes from one of the hardest to one of the easiest in the second half, I think we're gonna see a lot of "this team has figured it out" type posts.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 10:36 am to LesGeaux45
And a whole lot of "I knew all along they would turn it around"
This team HAS it figured out, we just don't have the personnel to carry it out just yet..
We will have a fun 2nd half of the season for sure
This team HAS it figured out, we just don't have the personnel to carry it out just yet..
We will have a fun 2nd half of the season for sure
Posted on 11/30/19 at 12:35 pm to Kenja
quote:I halfway agree with this. The thing, though, is that we have lost so many games by such a small margin that having someone as good as Zion would have tilted the game AT LEAST a few points in our favor.
People are putting way too much stock in the "we would have beaten 'em if" rant.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 2:08 pm to Ryan3232
Zion in the lineup would help.
Posted on 11/30/19 at 3:24 pm to Soggymoss
I agree with that. This team is closer than people think to being pretty good.
The Jrue/JJ/BI/Kenrich/Jaxson lineup has played 73 minutes (most common lineup by far). They have a 121.3 ORtg and a 107.5 DRtg for a NetRtg of +13.8. Our bench needs to improve. Imagine when Zion and Favors are getting the minutes instead of Okafor and Melli, and the bench guys are Zo/Jaxson/Kenrich/Hart/Moore.
I also don’t think this team is as cursed as we think when it comes to injuries. I think Nelson and crew are being unbelievably cautious with everyone. When the games start to matter I think we will have a smaller injury report. The training staff is playing the long game and is not concerned about sacrificing wins right now.
There is a lot to like about this core moving forward. The Ringer did a podcast the other day ranking players under 25. They had Zion top 5 and BI top 10. How many other teams can say that? Plus we have Jaxson who is ahead of schedule, some good vets in Jrue and JJ, no bad contracts, solid 3 and D guys in Kenrich and Hart, the Lakers picks until 2025, a great owner and front office, etc.
A year ago we had AD ruining our season, Dell Demps as our GM, and Mrs. B running the team like a stepchild. I know the season has not started like we wanted but this team is headed for something that could be really great in a pretty short period of time.
Our fan base is very reactionary to the outcome of individual games instead of the overall trend of improvement. This is a multi-year process. We were never going to figure it all out 20 games into the post-AD era with this many injuries and a really unforgiving schedule.
The Jrue/JJ/BI/Kenrich/Jaxson lineup has played 73 minutes (most common lineup by far). They have a 121.3 ORtg and a 107.5 DRtg for a NetRtg of +13.8. Our bench needs to improve. Imagine when Zion and Favors are getting the minutes instead of Okafor and Melli, and the bench guys are Zo/Jaxson/Kenrich/Hart/Moore.
I also don’t think this team is as cursed as we think when it comes to injuries. I think Nelson and crew are being unbelievably cautious with everyone. When the games start to matter I think we will have a smaller injury report. The training staff is playing the long game and is not concerned about sacrificing wins right now.
There is a lot to like about this core moving forward. The Ringer did a podcast the other day ranking players under 25. They had Zion top 5 and BI top 10. How many other teams can say that? Plus we have Jaxson who is ahead of schedule, some good vets in Jrue and JJ, no bad contracts, solid 3 and D guys in Kenrich and Hart, the Lakers picks until 2025, a great owner and front office, etc.
A year ago we had AD ruining our season, Dell Demps as our GM, and Mrs. B running the team like a stepchild. I know the season has not started like we wanted but this team is headed for something that could be really great in a pretty short period of time.
Our fan base is very reactionary to the outcome of individual games instead of the overall trend of improvement. This is a multi-year process. We were never going to figure it all out 20 games into the post-AD era with this many injuries and a really unforgiving schedule.
This post was edited on 11/30/19 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 11/30/19 at 8:38 pm to LesGeaux45
we so desperate i hope anybody comes... but we need a PG jrue cant run team, play elite d, & score 25 game.. hes missing layups at end game because hes guarding the 2 best players on team every game he worn out by 4th & lately hes barely been taking breaks because were such a disaster on d when hes not in and lonzo or etwuan has play
Posted on 12/3/19 at 8:32 am to greewe
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The Ringer did a podcast the other day ranking players under 25. They had Zion top 5 and BI top 10
zions ft% and 3 pt % still 0.
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