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Too many people have too much to lose if this proceeds to a formal trial in the senate
Posted on 11/19/19 at 11:53 pm
Posted on 11/19/19 at 11:53 pm
More and more I’m becoming convinced that Trump will not be impeached on the basis that while this is all for show in the house, the lies and shady dealings could have very real consequences for a lot of people if they come out in a formal senate trial.
Schiif can prevent any discussion beyond the scope of the hearings now, but you can bet if any of these witnesses are lying or there is anything to the Biden collusion theories it will come out if he is in fact impeached by the House. And of course, the whistleblower will be known and (potentially) crucified with the rest of them.
Schiif can prevent any discussion beyond the scope of the hearings now, but you can bet if any of these witnesses are lying or there is anything to the Biden collusion theories it will come out if he is in fact impeached by the House. And of course, the whistleblower will be known and (potentially) crucified with the rest of them.
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Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:00 am to Roger Klarvin
Not to mention a trial a would be takingkeeping several Senators off the campaign trail leading up to NH. Of course it may give the Democrats running a noble excuse to drop out of the POTUS race.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:05 am to Roger Klarvin
I concur. No way House holds a vote. Not sure yet how they slip out the back door but it’s become obvious this has no teeth. 6 months of this in the senate will infuriate the American people.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 12:28 am to Roger Klarvin
I used to think similar, specifically that Pelosi would eventually "save the day" by coming forward to a microphone at press conference and declare that she and the Congressional Dems are choosing to forego any further impeachment efforts in order to be the ones to heal the country.
Now I'm not so sure. Reason being, very simply, the verbiage they've chosen to parrot, i.e. absolute 100% indisputable foregone conclusion that Trump is guilty. Not so sure they can walk away from that now, as perhaps they could have had they employed the use of terminology such as "alleged" etc. They would have left themselves an out with that, but instead they went full-bore.
Now I'm not so sure. Reason being, very simply, the verbiage they've chosen to parrot, i.e. absolute 100% indisputable foregone conclusion that Trump is guilty. Not so sure they can walk away from that now, as perhaps they could have had they employed the use of terminology such as "alleged" etc. They would have left themselves an out with that, but instead they went full-bore.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 1:07 am to Roger Klarvin
I’m with you but I have no idea how they please their fricking insane base if they back off. The Left will lose it.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 1:12 am to Roger Klarvin
I agree with you.
The Dems have way too much to lose by bringing the impeachment trial to the Senate. I’ll say this with the caveat that the Dems actions are rarely logical.
The Dems have way too much to lose by bringing the impeachment trial to the Senate. I’ll say this with the caveat that the Dems actions are rarely logical.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 4:40 am to Roger Klarvin
The ONLY way the DEMs can salvage any iota of integrity is for Pelosi to call this thing off and censure Schiff, Nadler, et all - remove them from all committees they serve on, and call for their resignation - or vote to kick them out of the chamber.
They will HAVE to take some heads - admit absolute criminal behavior in the "russian collusion" hoax and name names.
In other words, they need to commit political suicide in order to gan any respect.
Will never happen.
They will HAVE to take some heads - admit absolute criminal behavior in the "russian collusion" hoax and name names.
In other words, they need to commit political suicide in order to gan any respect.
Will never happen.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 5:56 am to Roger Klarvin
I'm convinced that the orders have already come down from Obama to stop this charade due to the noose tightening on what is being uncovered.
No way this scam proceeds.
No way this scam proceeds.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 6:26 am to Roger Klarvin
Angry Grandma has put Schiff front and center at all of this, for a reason.
If anything incriminating were to come out, detailing something random, like security footage of Schiff, dressed in drag, running around one of the hillside bungalows of Chateau Marmont like a crazy person because the black preteen he had drugged up so he could abuse had OD'ed and died over the course of being raped, then that might be used as a play to save the Dems while just Schiff goes down.
Or something similarly random.
If anything incriminating were to come out, detailing something random, like security footage of Schiff, dressed in drag, running around one of the hillside bungalows of Chateau Marmont like a crazy person because the black preteen he had drugged up so he could abuse had OD'ed and died over the course of being raped, then that might be used as a play to save the Dems while just Schiff goes down.
Or something similarly random.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 6:51 am to Roger Klarvin
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More and more I’m becoming convinced that Trump will not be impeached on the basis that while this is all for show in the house, the lies and shady dealings could have very real consequences for a lot of people if they come out in a formal senate trial.
Schiif can prevent any discussion beyond the scope of the hearings now, but you can bet if any of these witnesses are lying or there is anything to the Biden collusion theories it will come out if he is in fact impeached by the House. And of course, the whistleblower will be known and (potentially) crucified with the rest of them.
I don't disagree with what you're saying here, but the Dems have painted themselves into a corner with this. If they vote to impeach and it goes to trial in the Senate the entire thing could unravel with serious consequences for the Dem collaborators when the defense actually gets a chance to call and cross examine witnesses.
If they don't vote to impeach, their leftist base will literally light themselves on fire before an election, and the dems will be blown out at the ballot box.
It's a no win situation when you've spent the last three decades pandering to 20% of the country.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 7:26 am to Roger Klarvin
Get this to a trial so we can find out everything that was going on in Ukraine.
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