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Posted on 11/17/19 at 8:44 pm to BuckyCheese
If they beat auburn by 4 TDs yea. We don’t know how much the committee values eye test v resume. You would assume LSU would be way ahead of the Oregon utah winner on both of those.
Posted on 11/17/19 at 8:46 pm to Boomshockalocka
Bama is done regardless. You could still argue they were one of the four best (not most deserving, but best) teams until losing Tua.
Posted on 11/17/19 at 9:06 pm to lsufanva
LSU has to be in. They have the best resume, best win and best loss. If Bama was in serious consideration without even making the SEC championship game, it's a no brainier to put LSU in
Posted on 11/17/19 at 9:20 pm to Tubedog13
This is what is shitty about CFB.
I agree LSU is in with a loss to Georgia because they would still have proven to be one of the 4 best teams overall and people want to see them in the playoffs this season.
However it really sucks to be an Oklahoma or Oregon in that scenario and not make it with 1 loss. Kinda ridiculous.
Also you could envision a scenario where LSU sustains a season ending injury to their QB (like Tua) during a potential loss in Atlanta ... and then the committee might change their mind. That would be totally shitty but that is the system we have.
We need 8 teams badly. 5 conference champs with objective criteria and 3 subjective at large picks.
I agree LSU is in with a loss to Georgia because they would still have proven to be one of the 4 best teams overall and people want to see them in the playoffs this season.
However it really sucks to be an Oklahoma or Oregon in that scenario and not make it with 1 loss. Kinda ridiculous.
Also you could envision a scenario where LSU sustains a season ending injury to their QB (like Tua) during a potential loss in Atlanta ... and then the committee might change their mind. That would be totally shitty but that is the system we have.
We need 8 teams badly. 5 conference champs with objective criteria and 3 subjective at large picks.
Posted on 11/17/19 at 9:22 pm to crazyatthecamp
Oklahoma does not deserve playoffs dude. junk team who could barely beat bears (3 star squad)
Oregon I can agree with ya
Oregon I can agree with ya
Posted on 11/17/19 at 9:39 pm to jac1280
There's no precedent yet for leaving out a one-loss P5 champ in favor of a one-loss non-champ. LSU would probably be the strongest case yet but I'll believe it when I see it.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:49 am to messyjesse
quote:True
There's no precedent yet for leaving out a one-loss P5 champ in favor of a one-loss non-champ.
But the only 12-1 non champs we have had is 12-1 Wisconsin, who had zero ranked wins
and
12-1 Iowa who had one ranked win over #13 wisconsin
So, that wouldnt really be a great litmus test for what they would do with a 12-1 lsu who would have wins against (I am guessing on final rankings) #5 Alabama, #10 florida, #20 Auburn
Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:52 am to gobuxgo5
Oregon isn’t a 100% lock but it pretty much requires a doomsday scenario to happen for them to miss.
LSU and tOSU are undefeated and seen as the best teams in the land. Clemson is 3rd. Arguably Oregon or Georgia is 4th.
If championship week happens and LSU loses to Georgia and tOSU loses, they both drop from the current spots but probably not out of the top 4. But Georgia likely jumps Oregon because they will have a huge win.
LSU and tOSU are undefeated and seen as the best teams in the land. Clemson is 3rd. Arguably Oregon or Georgia is 4th.
If championship week happens and LSU loses to Georgia and tOSU loses, they both drop from the current spots but probably not out of the top 4. But Georgia likely jumps Oregon because they will have a huge win.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:53 am to Boomshockalocka
What if Bama rolls Auburn and Oregon lost to Auburn in the final minutes.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 8:53 am to gobuxgo5
quote:
12-1 Oregon is 100% percent lock to make the playoffs. However that figures in to your confusing OP.
Nah.
They really need LSU or UGA to pick up 2 losses.
Or for Clemson to choke one.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 1:15 pm to crazyatthecamp
quote:
We need 8 teams badly. 5 conference champs with objective criteria and 3 subjective at large picks.
I think this is the year that will make things change. Several teams get screwed no matter what and they are always reactive, not proactive about cfb playoffs.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 1:56 pm to Korin
quote:
I wonder what the committee would do if LSU is 12-0 and rested their starters for the SECCG.
If they lose doing that, they'll be left out and rightfully so.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 1:57 pm to jac1280
Correct.
12-1 LSU is absolutely in this year’s playoff given the resume relative to the other playoff contenders. And Auburn win over Oregon. And Joe Burrow.
It Doesn’t matter where that 1 loss comes from (A&M or UGA)
All that said, id be surprised if either A&M or UGA can keep up with LSU’s offense. I’ve been wrong before tho. It’s nice to still have the Mulligan in our pocket and no undefeated Big12 or Pac12 teams.
12-1 LSU is absolutely in this year’s playoff given the resume relative to the other playoff contenders. And Auburn win over Oregon. And Joe Burrow.
It Doesn’t matter where that 1 loss comes from (A&M or UGA)
All that said, id be surprised if either A&M or UGA can keep up with LSU’s offense. I’ve been wrong before tho. It’s nice to still have the Mulligan in our pocket and no undefeated Big12 or Pac12 teams.
This post was edited on 11/18/19 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 11/18/19 at 2:10 pm to JPLSU1981
12-1 LSU is locked in 0% chance they get left out. The playoff committee is all about narratives. The narrative on Oklahoma is they can't compete with an elite team because they have a suspect defense. This was quite obvious against Kansas State, Iowa State, and now Baylor. LSU has proven they are an elite team and has the best win of the year (@Bama) some other quality wins, and their only loss would be to a top 4 Georgia team. Oregon lost to an Auburn team that LSU beat. LSU has 3 quality wins to Oregon's 1, and their loss is much better. The narrative on Oregon is that they are the best team in a weak conference that hasn't been tested and lost the one game they needed to win to shake their reputation as not being elite.
There is no logical argument that would support Oklahoma or Oregon over LSU
There is no logical argument that would support Oklahoma or Oregon over LSU
Posted on 11/18/19 at 2:25 pm to JB Bama
Agreed...
Yeah If the Pac12 or Big12 champ was undefeated it would be a more interesting conversation. (13-0 Oregon/Utah/OU vs 12-1 LSU)
But given it would be equal records with LSU having the clear and overwhelming resume advantage, it’s not even close who would get the nod in that scenario this particular year. (12-1 LSU vs 12-1 Oregon/Utah/OU)
Yeah If the Pac12 or Big12 champ was undefeated it would be a more interesting conversation. (13-0 Oregon/Utah/OU vs 12-1 LSU)
But given it would be equal records with LSU having the clear and overwhelming resume advantage, it’s not even close who would get the nod in that scenario this particular year. (12-1 LSU vs 12-1 Oregon/Utah/OU)
This post was edited on 11/18/19 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 11/18/19 at 2:30 pm to JPLSU1981
quote:if that were the case, there would be no conversation. Maybe for ratings. But the undefeated champion would, without a doubt, be in.
Yeah If the Pac12 or Big12 champ was undefeated it would be a more interesting conversation.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 2:31 pm to castorinho
True, and I agree, but people would be talking about it for sure.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 2:42 pm to Who_Dat_Tiger
In that scenario, I don’t think we’d deserve to get in.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 2:44 pm to crazyatthecamp
quote:
We need 8 teams badly. 5 conference champs with objective criteria and 3 subjective at large picks.
I’d prefer 6 teams kind of like the NFL. 3 plays 6, 4 plays 5, 1 and 2 get a bye and are seeded based on remaining rankings. Guarantee 5 P5 conf champs and 1 at large.
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