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The decision on Syria may doom Trump for 2020.

Posted on 10/7/19 at 8:35 am
Posted by GeneralLee
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 8:35 am
This is how the next few months will play out... Turkey invades NE Syria in the next week or two, thousands of casualties on the Kurdish side, both military and civilian. Mass atrocities by Turkish troops in Kurdish areas (rape, torture, etc.), major prison breaks from the Al Hawl camp letting thousands of ISIS prisoners free. You can bet the media will blame Trump for this, which in this case would be accurate as it was the call he just made as Commander in Chief to let Turkey in and withdraw our forces. This will be a legitimate foreign policy scandal, unlike Ukraine. And there will be widespread, bipartisan backlash as there should be from the horrific consequences of this decision.

I will never vote for a Democrat, but may vote 3rd party now. I'm not in a swing state so doesn't matter anyway.
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 8:36 am to
Didn't the Kurds agree to this?
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
8520 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 8:37 am to
Not. Our. Problem.

We are not the world police. Let them kill each other.

No more American lives.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 8:38 am to
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Posted by Jrv2damac
KS (mountain time)
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 8:38 am to
What do you want to do exactly? More middle east intervention?

Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 8:38 am to
Will likely garner him more votes than he will lose.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 8:38 am to
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It's nobody's business but the Turks.
Posted by GeneralLee
Member since Aug 2004
13958 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 8:40 am to
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What do you want to do exactly? More middle east intervention?


Tell Erdogan that his troops and/or planes will be shot down the moment they cross into Syria. We don't have to have boots on the ground but can use our air superiority to prevent a Turkish invasion.
This post was edited on 10/7/19 at 8:43 am
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
23527 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 8:40 am to
Congrats on making my up shite in your head and then using it to decide how to vote for a candidate a year from now, fricking drama queen
Posted by Jrv2damac
KS (mountain time)
Member since Mar 2004
72622 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 8:41 am to
So your answer is yes.


Same shite, different year with neocons.
Posted by GeneralLee
Member since Aug 2004
13958 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 8:42 am to
This would be like if we told Israel that the Palestinians or the Iranians were free to take over the Golan Heights. We are clearly on the wrong side here, supporting Turkey is supporting ISIS, one and the same.
Posted by bengalfan50
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 8:42 am to
Third party is a vote for a democrat. If you can’t figure that out then everything you typed is gibberish. I tend to think you are a troll.....
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
136591 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 8:42 am to
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This is how the next few months will play out... Turkey invades NE Syria in the next week or two, thousands of casualties on the Kurdish side, both military and civilian. Mass atrocities by Turkish troops in Kurdish areas (rape, torture, etc.), major prison breaks from the Al Hawl camp letting thousands of ISIS prisoners free. You can bet the media will blame Trump for this, which in this case would be accurate as it was the call he just made as Commander in Chief to let Turkey in and withdraw our forces. This will be a legitimate foreign policy scandal, unlike Ukraine. And there will be widespread, bipartisan backlash as there should be from the horrific consequences of this decision.
All that may be. But if so, why do the Kurds support the deal?
Posted by GeneralLee
Member since Aug 2004
13958 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 8:43 am to
They don't support it, that was reporting from a prior security arrangement from a month ago.
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 8:44 am to
Russia is gonna blow the Turks to oblivion as soon as they come across. Then Israel is gonna pretend to be someone else and fire on the Russians.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
113680 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 8:44 am to
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Didn't the Kurds agree to this?


Yes
Posted by Lsujacket66
Member since Dec 2010
5083 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 8:44 am to
Trump won by not being a neocon... now you’re telling me he will lose by not being a neocon.
Posted by ExtraGravy
Member since Nov 2018
975 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 8:45 am to
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This would be like if we told Israel that the Palestinians or the Iranians were free to take over the Golan Heights. We are clearly on the wrong side here, supporting Turkey is supporting ISIS, one and the same.


Trump is enabling genocide. And remember we just induced the Kurds to get away from the border- clearing the way for a Turkish invasion, it turns out.

I did not support impeachment but now I do. He is, for whatever reason, enabling a genocide of the Kurds, the "ally" in the Middle East who has been the most loyal to us, and we have constantly rewarded by betrayal. This one is the worst yet.

The president needs to be removed from office. I don't think Mike Pence would go along with this for one minute if he were president.
Posted by GeneralLee
Member since Aug 2004
13958 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 8:46 am to
Let the downvotes rain down, but bookmark this thread. Y'all are not thinking through how this plays out long-term and how the media will use it to undermine Trump.
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
37720 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 8:46 am to
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may doom Trump


Trump could cancel the sport of football and would still get re-elected in a landslide.
Simma Donna
This post was edited on 10/7/19 at 8:53 am
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