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The Whstleblower lied from the outset, claimed to have "firsthand" knowledge of misconduct

Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:28 am
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:28 am
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The inspector general for the intelligence community said late Monday that the whistleblower whose complaint touched off an impeachment inquiry claimed to have firsthand knowledge of misconduct -- a claim that appears to conflict with documents sent to Congress and the director of national intelligence. The lengthy statement Monday was posted in response to questions, raised in the media and by congressional Republicans, about the disclosure form filed by the whistleblower, who first flagged concerns about President Trump's July phone call in which he asked the leader of Ukraine to "look into" actions by former Vice President Joe Biden and his son, Hunter Biden. The IG said the whistleblower stated on an initial form Aug. 12 "that he or she possessed both first-hand and other information."






So ANOTHER Dem attempt to subvert an open and free election was based on a fricking lie.

Where have we heard this story before?
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
11875 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:30 am to
doesn't matter the narrative is out that he had first hand knowledge....

goal was achieved. most wont know of the correction
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23800 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:30 am to
I think that IG is suspect too, and might be in hot water, especially if a criminal complaint is filed by Nunes and his cohorts.
Posted by RidiculousHype
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2007
10234 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:31 am to
The truth is they still haven’t accepted the results of the 2016 election, and they’ll do anything to overturn it.
Posted by LSUTIGER in TEXAS
Member since Jan 2008
13613 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:32 am to
This was all coordinated. You can tell bc the Democrat media complex was hyping this spook as a whistleblower, when real whistleblowers like Assange got treated as spies by the Obama administration.

All to get trump.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
11875 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:34 am to
i think this whole thing smells like the clinton machine.

1) Attack Trump/try to de-legitimatize his election yet again

2) Attack biden, the front runner in the process.

3) also, in the news this week, was "big Dem doners" sitting out or supporting trump if warren is the dem nomination

4) today, Facebook says it will plan on suing fedgov if warren is elected

All these attempts will lead Hillary to "reluctantly" step in to save the party and the nation...
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
53037 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:39 am to
Any person who is pushing this Ukraine peach mint stuff, is a certified moron.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62707 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:43 am to
Looks like the IG is going with incompetence on his part. Maybe it will save him, and he can undo the damage, but feel it’s too late, and feel he’s a deep State agent, hiding in the open.....
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:44 am to
1) There is no law requiring first hand information

The IG also found that the whistleblower had authorized access to documents that would have given him first hand knowledge. Right?
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:45 am to
Trump fricked them by releasing the transcript.

He was supposed to block its release to protect the office

If the transcript was hidden this bullshite would be believed without question
Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
Member since Oct 2013
22175 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:15 pm to
So basically in any criminal court of law in the US he would be impeached by the court but he’s credible in an attack on the CEO of the US. Libtard logic.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
80335 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:19 pm to
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The inspector general for the intelligence community said late Monday that the whistleblower whose complaint touched off an impeachment inquiry claimed to have firsthand knowledge of misconduct


And there goes the old “well the IG found it to be a credible complaint” argument right up in smoke.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32145 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:32 pm to
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So ANOTHER Dem attempt to subvert an open and free election was based on a fricking lie.



Democrat attempt or the Clinton machine?
Posted by RocketTiger
Member since Mar 2014
1149 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:33 pm to
They aren't a Whistleblower. They don't meet the standards. They are a leaker.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124608 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:36 pm to
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The inspector general for the intelligence community said late Monday that the whistleblower whose complaint touched off an impeachment inquiry claimed to have firsthand knowledge of misconduct
Is the IG illiterate? Because it does not matter WTF the WB "claims", the complaint included zero first-hand info. If the IG read it, he'd know that.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 10/1/19 at 3:24 pm to
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The IG said the whistleblower stated on an initial form Aug. 12 "that he or she possessed both first-hand and other information."


When was that rule change again? Implicit in this statement is there were more than one form for the same person.

Sounds like they knew this wasn't going to fly and would get shot to shite quickly (because of all the inaccuracies and downright wrong shite), so they went with the "second-hand" route under the new rule.
Posted by TG
Metairie
Member since Sep 2004
3064 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 5:22 pm to
Deja Vu
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53818 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 5:24 pm to
CNN reporting that today's IG report says "Whistlblower is credible and had some first hand knowledge per the form they filled out"
Posted by ConwayGamecock
South Carolina
Member since Jan 2012
9121 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 7:04 pm to
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quote:

The inspector general for the intelligence community said late Monday that the whistleblower whose complaint touched off an impeachment inquiry claimed to have firsthand knowledge of misconduct -- a claim that appears to conflict with documents sent to Congress and the director of national intelligence. The lengthy statement Monday was posted in response to questions, raised in the media and by congressional Republicans, about the disclosure form filed by the whistleblower, who first flagged concerns about President Trump's July phone call in which he asked the leader of Ukraine to "look into" actions by former Vice President Joe Biden and his son, Hunter Biden. The IG said the whistleblower stated on an initial form Aug. 12 "that he or she possessed both first-hand and other information."






So ANOTHER Dem attempt to subvert an open and free election was based on a fricking lie.

Where have we heard this story before?


Sounds more like another sad attempt by Repubs to lie and redirect from the truth:


The original whistleblower complaint to the ICIG:

"I was not a direct witness to MOST of the events described".

Complainant's Letter to IC IG

Most does not equal "all". This therefore implies that there were in fact a number of events that the whistleblower WAS in direct witness to. The linked Fox article is titled,

"Intelligence watchdog now says whistleblower claimed 'first-hand' knowledge, in departure from declassified complaint"

To make such a title, is to make very much the implication that the "Intelligence Watchdog" - known formally as the Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG) - stated initially that the whistleblower complainant had none nor gave no such information that was derived through first-hand knowledge, when the ICIG made no such implication whatsoever in ANY documentation, letters, nor statements known to the public at this time. This is once again a very obvious case of FAKE NEWS that Fox has been entrenched deeply within since before Trump was elected President.

In the ICIG's statement dated September 30th, 2019 that the Fox article references:


quote:

The Disclosure of Urgent Concern form the Complainant submitted on August 12, 2019 is
the same form the ICIG has had in place since May 24, 2018, which went into effect before
Inspector General Atkinson entered on duty as the Inspector General of the Intelligence
Community on May 29, 2018, following his swearing in as the Inspector General of the
Intelligence Community on May 17, 2018. Although the form requests information about whether
the Complainant possesses first-hand knowledge about the matter about which he or she is lodging the complaint, there is no such requirement set forth in the statute.

In fact, by law the Complainant – or any individual in the Intelligence Community who wants to report information with respect to an urgent concern to the congressional intelligence committees – need not possess first-hand information in order to file a complaint or information with respect to an urgent concern. The ICIG cannot add conditions to the filing of an urgent concern that do not exist in law. Since Inspector General Atkinson entered on duty as the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community, the ICIG has not rejected the filing of an alleged urgent concern due to a whistleblower’s lack of first-hand knowledge of the allegations.



ICIG Statement On Processing Whistleblower Complaints

So, the TRUTH is - despite what Fox reports - is that according to the ICIG an intelligence community whistleblower complainant need not have ANY first-hand knowledge of an abuse of authority in order to file a complaint of urgent concern. But according to the whistleblower in this particular case, he/she actually DID have some degree of first-hand knowledge, just the same.....


This post was edited on 10/1/19 at 7:24 pm
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