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re: Florida Rep Proposes bill to pay college athletes

Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:39 am to
Posted by cgoat3
South LA
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:39 am to
I think what will really be interesting is what will Title IX make of this? If the superstar football player is making ten times what the beach volleyballer player is making off her image, well that is just not fair. It will be interesting to see what those SJWs on the left coast really believe in capitalism. Stay tuned.
Posted by TigerDat
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:43 am to
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Florida Rep Proposes bill to pay college athletes by cgoat3
I think what will really be interesting is what will Title IX make of this? If the superstar football player is making ten times what the beach volleyballer player is making off her image


That's why the law states the player can make money not the school can pay the player.

I believe the thought is if it's the individual then title 9 doesnt apply
Posted by CalRipkenJr
Denham Springs
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:44 am to
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I think what will really be interesting is what will Title IX make of this?


I'm actually interested to see how much longer title IX exists. With gender lines being blurred how can they continue to classify sports as "Men's" or "Women's" lets get a ton of guys that "identify" as women and use up some of those female scholarships for those gals to play football!
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
44066 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:58 am to
The only thing this is going to do is allow players to get paid for their "Likeness".

When they get paid for it the NCAA is going to rule them ineligible to compete for titles.

Simple.
Posted by CalRipkenJr
Denham Springs
Member since Jan 2007
1635 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:07 pm to
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When they get paid for it the NCAA is going to rule them ineligible to compete for titles.

Simple.


Exactly, the same as if a University of Colorado football player "legally" smokes weed...it's not against the law but it's against the NCAA rules!

Posted by TchPowDog
Zachary, LA
Member since Sep 2015
4798 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:21 pm to
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don't like this at all. No one forcing them to play college

This is completely missing the point.

To a lot of these kids, their sport is all they know and all they're good at. College is a necessary step to get to the next level. Not to mention, a TON of money is being made directly off these kids' performance.

No one is forcing you to work, yet you still get paid to work.
Posted by TchPowDog
Zachary, LA
Member since Sep 2015
4798 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:23 pm to
Though I don't think lawmakers should be concerned with recruiting, it would be in Louisiana's best interest to get this ball rolling as well.

Think about if Louisiana is 2 years behind California and Florida with this - recruiting would suffer big time. Especially is Texas hops on the train.
Posted by TchPowDog
Zachary, LA
Member since Sep 2015
4798 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:29 pm to
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No matter how "unfair" some people think it is, it's just not very feasible to pay these athletes. Not necessarily because they don't have the money, but because it would open up so many cans of worms

What a lame excuse!

"You guys make a ton of money* for me, but I'm not going to pay you because it's too much for me to manage."

* - not just a few thousand dollars. It's a multi-billion dollar industry.
This post was edited on 10/1/19 at 12:30 pm
Posted by D500MAG
Oklahoma
Member since Oct 2010
3737 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:32 pm to
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Chicken

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don't like this at all. No one forcing them to play college



setting athletes aside, how many other college students are forced to give up their NIL rights?
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
5955 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:38 pm to
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What a lame excuse!

"You guys make a ton of money* for me, but I'm not going to pay you because it's too much for me to manage."

* - not just a few thousand dollars. It's a multi-billion dollar industry.


It's not an excuse, it's reality. Athletics are used to pay for everything related to the school, including scholarship money for these athletes to get free schooling. If athletes are paid, then negotiations start, and it becomes like a professional league where players are trying to leverage the market. That's just the way it is. Life isn't always fair. Soldiers go across the world to get shot at so that people can have the freedom to complain about their lives, and they don't make jack diddly squat. Until someone changes that fact, I don't give a damn how important college athletes think they are to their university.
Posted by ELchapoLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2017
1458 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:40 pm to
This is getting real interesting to say the least though
Posted by TchPowDog
Zachary, LA
Member since Sep 2015
4798 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:40 pm to
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I say good. Now all schools in Cal and FLA will be ineligible and have to forfeit any wins that paid players played in

You do realize that California and Florida are two of the three biggest college athletics states in the country, right? The other being Texas. The fact you think the NCAA will just say "Ok, frick off" to all the schools in these states, shows how naive and ignorant you are of how all this works.

Whether they like it or not, the NCAA will change their regulations for these two states alone.
Posted by TchPowDog
Zachary, LA
Member since Sep 2015
4798 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:42 pm to
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It's not an excuse

It is. And it's a lame one.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68428 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:47 pm to
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Schools are free to leave the NCAA at any time and pay their players. They simply will no longer be able to compete for championships


Does the NCAA have an antitrust exemption like the NFL?
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
67056 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:50 pm to
A Democrat from Miami Dade introduced this bill in Tallahassee to the republican controlled legislature. Good luck getting it passed
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
5955 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:53 pm to
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It is. And it's a lame one.




I illustrated why it is, in fact, not an excuse. You didn't bother to respond to any of that, presumably because you have no response. And THAT is lame.
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
13536 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 1:02 pm to
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Florida Rep Proposes bill to pay college athletes


Following Alabama's lead?

Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
5955 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 1:02 pm to
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Does the NCAA have an antitrust exemption like the NFL?




Not that I am aware of. The NCAA is not a business, technically, as they are only supposed to be the governing body. So they can make rules for all schools who are under their umbrella, but they cannot keep schools from leaving said umbrella. It just wouldn't make much sense for a school to exit from the NCAA.

I'm not an anti-trust law expert, but I don't see how it can apply to the NCAA, from what I do know.
This post was edited on 10/1/19 at 1:03 pm
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
10454 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 1:04 pm to
The greedy schools and conferences and NCAA want ALL of the money. The players are merely chattel to them. It is criminal that they cannot profit from it as well.
Posted by oauron
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2011
14513 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 1:10 pm to
They kinda have to though. There’s no other option for talented football players to go after high school. It’s the only path to the NFL
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